KIA EV6 I really like this ev and will buy one if I like the test drive. when they go into production

[pronstar]

There’s isn’t one vehicle that can meet all of my vehicle needs...gas or electric.

EVs are good for some things, not others.
Same can be said for gas.

At this point, I’ve got fewer compromises with gas vehicles. But that could change.

But saying EVs suck because they aren’t good for 5 hour road trips, is akin to me saying my Silverado sucks because it can’t go 0-60 in 2 seconds...that’s not really in the sweet spot of what it was designed for.

But what do I know...I’m that CA transplant who arrived with a Prius and an freaking electric clown car.

Of course, my garage has a Suburban and Silverado in it now, both V8’s LOL


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[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

This: " Of course, my garage has a Suburban and Silverado in it now, both V8’s LOL "

Part of my disdain for ev's is the leftists asserting crap like: In 10 years, ICE vehicles will be a thing of past...

 

[Shady]

Its not just leftist that think that new ICE will not be the main selling vehicle in 10 years.

In 10 years the EV will have the range and power to kill the ICE performance.

 

[rotor]

There’s isn’t one vehicle that can meet all of my vehicle needs...gas or electric.

EVs are good for some things, not others.
Same can be said for gas.

At this point, I’ve got fewer compromises with gas vehicles. But that could change.

But saying EVs suck because they aren’t good for 5 hour road trips, is akin to me saying my Silverado sucks because it can’t go 0-60 in 2 seconds...that’s not really in the sweet spot of what it was designed for.

But what do I know...I’m that CA transplant who arrived with a Prius and an freaking electric clown car.

Of course, my garage has a Suburban and Silverado in it now, both V8’s LOL


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EVs suck not because they aren't good for 5 hour road trips but because they take so long to charge at the "gas station" to make that 5 hour trip. The 5 hour trip then becomes a 6 hour trip. If an EV could "fill up" in the same time as a gas vehicle they would be great. A hydrogen EV might be able to do that. I really don't care where the energy comes from to turn the wheels, only how much of my time is wasted.
I had a Prius too. Really clunky to drive. Got great mileage, true but not a real comfortable car. They had to pull the engine when it had some minor fluid leak for $3,000. There went the gas savings.
I think that EV has great potential for 18 wheelers on defined routes. Maybe. The problem still is battery technology and the fact that China seems to own the source of battery chemicals.

 

[benenglish]

Are those panels fragile?

My understanding is that some are but that the Tesla roof is pretty tough.

 

[TheDan]

I'd buy an EV for the performance...

What's the point of the performance when you can't really use it? No EV is going to make the 250+ mile hill country drives I like to do on the weekends. Dude showed up to COTA in a Taycan not to long after they came out. He was able to do three laps and then had to go recharge for an hr.

 

[no2gates]

Once they perfect "Ultra-Capacitors", the days of the internal combustion engine will be numbered.
Charge time for refueling will be about the same or less than filling a gas tank now.

 

[pronstar]

This: " Of course, my garage has a Suburban and Silverado in it now, both V8’s LOL "

Part of my disdain for ev's is the leftists asserting crap like: In 10 years, ICE vehicles will be a thing of past...

We’ve got at least a half-century of gasoline and diesel powered vehicles, probably more.

How long our moronic overloads actually allow us (we allow them to dictate to us) to drive them is a whole other story.


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[pronstar]

EVs suck not because they aren't good for 5 hour road trips but because they take so long to charge at the "gas station" to make that 5 hour trip. The 5 hour trip then becomes a 6 hour trip. If an EV could "fill up" in the same time as a gas vehicle they would be great. A hydrogen EV might be able to do that. I really don't care where the energy comes from to turn the wheels, only how much of my time is wasted.
I had a Prius too. Really clunky to drive. Got great mileage, true but not a real comfortable car. They had to pull the engine when it had some minor fluid leak for $3,000. There went the gas savings.
I think that EV has great potential for 18 wheelers on defined routes. Maybe. The problem still is battery technology and the fact that China seems to own the source of battery chemicals.

The sweet spot for EV’s is to charge at home, while you’re sleeping. Which means the range is a tether.

IMHO it doesn’t make sense to own one if you have to rely on out-of-home charging for an EV with current technology.

Ain’t nobody got time for that.


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[benenglish]

We’ve got at least a half-century of gasoline and diesel powered vehicles, probably more.

Certainly more. Horses didn't go away when they stopped being everybody's ride. The ICE will linger for centuries among those who appreciate it, especially once all normal transportation is electric and there are no longer enough ICE engines to bother regulating their emissions, etc.

If you meant a half-century (at least) remaining while they continue to be viable transport for the masses, I think that's the outside envelope.

But, hey, I'm no expert. I'm just pulling those opinions right outta my butt.

 

[pronstar]

Certainly more. Horses didn't go away when they stopped being everybody's ride. The ICE will linger for centuries among those who appreciate it, especially once all normal transportation is electric and there are no longer enough ICE engines to bother regulating their emissions, etc.

If you meant a half-century (at least) remaining while they continue to be viable transport for the masses, I think that's the outside envelope.

But, hey, I'm no expert. I'm just pulling those opinions right outta my butt.

I think it’ll ultimately depend on regs for developed nations (incl Japan) and regions, but significantly longer for those that are less developed. Some places may never see EVs, methinks.

It’s really hard to say with any certainty, because this is driven by politicians (idiots) and not free market forces.

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[rotor]

Once they perfect "Ultra-Capacitors", the days of the internal combustion engine will be numbered.
Charge time for refueling will be about the same or less than filling a gas tank now.

Not familiar with the technology but charge time is the limiting factor at present. The final issue is where will the electricity come from to support all of these vehicles. Fusion, not in my lifetime. The electric grid has enough problem right now, let alone in the future.

 

[TheDan]

Horses didn't go away when they stopped being everybody's ride.

There's a dude that regularly rides his horse around Rockdale. It really cracked me up when he rode into Sonic to order food while I was there.

That's going to be me in the future with people thinking I'm crazy for driving around an analog shitbox splitting flames.

 

[Texas45]

Everyone forgets all the precious metals and manufacturing required to BUILD an EVPOS.


Ain’t saving a fucking thing.

Child slave labor to mine the metals
Gas and oil products needed to make the batteries and all the electronics.

Plants to produce all the parts etc crank out as much or more CARBON emissions as the cars they want to replace.


Get an EV save the planet.


What a bunch of bovine excrement.


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[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

To those who assert ev's will shove ICE vehicles out of the nest in 10 years reminds me of those who (back around 1930 or so) asserted we'd all have flying cars in the very near future, uh huh, sure we will...ppppffffttttt!

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Supposedly GM says by 2035....

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/gen...lusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html

 

[pronstar]

Supposedly GM says by 2035....

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/gen...lusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html

They hedged their bets...it’s an “aspirational” target that will require a great many externalities to happen, if they are to achieve this.


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[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Pron,

Agreed - One of the externalities being the help of Harry Potter like magic and when that happens we'll also have flying cars, electric of course.

 

[Younggun]

It’s more about getting fat checks from the tax payers as the left pushes for electric vehicles over the next 4 years.


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[Younggun]

To those who assert ev's will shove ICE vehicles out of the nest in 10 years reminds me of those who (back around 1930 or so) asserted we'd all have flying cars in the very near future, uh huh, sure we will...ppppffffttttt!

Don’t think anything will change a whole lot in the next 10 years, but the comparison to flying cars is a swing and miss.


I see 100% electric vehicles on the road every day. There’s never been a commercially successful flying car.


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