That's not an IRS security guard; the IRS doesn't employ security guards. It's also not a Federal Protective Service uniform. Like most small government offices, the guard is working for a private company under contract to provide security.
IRS employees would all be happier if their security was provided by FPS officers who are always better trained than the private security contractors who usually do the job. If that had been an FPS officer, even though the Sheriff's Deputy was breaking the law by entering the office, the FPS officer would have exercised some reasonable discretion and just let him do his business and run along.
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Agreed, but we're all clear, the sheriff violated the law and got no punishment.
Except that building houses a lot of private businesses as wellThat's not an IRS security guard; the IRS doesn't employ security guards. It's also not a Federal Protective Service uniform. Like most small government offices, the guard is working for a private company under contract to provide security.
IRS employees would all be happier if their security was provided by FPS officers who are always better trained than the private security contractors who usually do the job. If that had been an FPS officer, even though the Sheriff's Deputy was breaking the law by entering the office, the FPS officer would have exercised some reasonable discretion and just let him do his business and run along.
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Arguably, that's correct.the sheriff violated the law
Apparently.and got no punishment
Good point. That's why I referred to "small" government offices. Federal offices inside non-federal buildings shared with private sector companies virtually never get Federal Protective Service officers assigned on a continuing basis. They drop by and do lots of things to help but they don't stick around unless there's a current, credible threat in place.Except that building houses a lot of private businesses as well
I think the guard overreacted but ultimately was in the right here. He did his job. He couldn't have known if the badge and uniform were fake so he took appropriate action.
He should have been the one to call 911 though.
To be fair, that cop could have just gone back to his car and removed his weapon and this never would have escalated.
Did the guard react badly? Yes, but the cop didn't help either.
I guessed I missed it in the thread, can someone point out to me where the deputy violated the law?
So you never handled some personal business on your work time, ever? Wow, you are a better man than me.Had the deputy handled his personal business on his personal time, he (likely) wouldn't have found himself in this predicament. I'm kinda surprised that the deputy filed suit for the mental anguish caused by having a weapon drawn on him...oh the court precedent that could potentially set, I wonder how many times he's drawn his weapon on others? I will applaud the deputy for his role in de escalating the situation, that could've taken a turn for the worse in a few milliseconds.
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So you never handled some personal business on your work time, ever? Wow, you are a better man than me.
I won't requote the lenghty reply about the federal statute but can you tell me with 100% certainty that the deputy in uniform in his county broke the law? That is like saying when they take their meal break they aren't LEOs. I mean Jesus. Let's take the uniform and badge out of it. You are a civilian with a LTC and you go to your local IRS office that they lease out in a regular building.
You go thru the metal detectors and contract security says no go, go back to your car to disarm and you say BS so they draw down on you. Is that right? Let's use some common sense.
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If you tried to walk into a federal office or building with a firearm after going through a metal detector they wouldn't ask you to go back to your car. You'd have been arrested.
LEOs get a huge amount of leeway that frankly they shouldn't. Do I hold them to a higher standard? Hell yes I do.
Let me answer your first paragraph - Again are you 100% sure? If it is a complete and solely a Federal Building, maybe. The problem is the IRS leases out space in commercial buildings so when they go thru the metal detector, the are not officially in "Federal Office Space". I am referencing the Farmers Branch IRS office (hey they have free parking at least) specifically.
18 U.S. Code § 930. Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities
(d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to—
(1) the lawful performance of official duties by an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of law;
If the deputy was there on personal business, it could be interpreted that he wasn't lawfully performing an official duty.
Same code I posted above...
(g) As used in this section:
(1) The term “Federal facility” means a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties.