Okay, update, I just filled out form 4473...

[jrbfishn]

Sometimes, the only way to find out what it means is to go through case law. Even lawyers and the courts argue over what "it" means.

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[TexasRedneck]

This is where being a member of a group such as Legal Shield is handy....call and talk to an attorney - if they're wrong, they'll be there to defend ya.

 

[45tex]

I gots it now. The next time I'm accosted on the street by some homeless dude, I'm going to ask him to see his nut case card. Since Uncle Sam wants to know and the NICS can't check for it. They must be given a card or something to prove they are in the club.

 

[vmax]

What would be the point? Operation Shitty Internet Advice?


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Okay. Let me spell it out since you cant do it on your own.

ATF creates new troll account
Comes on and says they are not allowed to legally purchase firearm...was denied...questions the basis ...starts saying the laws are not fair and shouldn't exist
Says he wants a gun
Someone contacts him through a PM offering to sell him a gun or offering a way for him to get around the 4473 , with knowledge they were denied...


Indictments follow .
Now...you understand?

 

[jordanmills]

Okay. Let me spell it out since you cant do it on your own.

ATF creates new troll account
Comes on and says they are not allowed to legally purchase firearm...was denied...questions the basis ...starts saying the laws are not fair and shouldn't exist
Says he wants a gun
Someone contacts him through a PM offering to sell him a gun or offering a way for him to get around the 4473 , with knowledge they were denied...


Indictments follow .
Now...you understand?

What we need is for some local LEO to be in a sting operation where they incite that buyer to make an illegal FTF purchase. Then they can both show up and arrest each other.

 

[TxStetson]

Okay. Let me spell it out since you cant do it on your own.

ATF creates new troll account
Comes on and says they are not allowed to legally purchase firearm...was denied...questions the basis ...starts saying the laws are not fair and shouldn't exist
Says he wants a gun
Someone contacts him through a PM offering to sell him a gun or offering a way for him to get around the 4473 , with knowledge they were denied...


Indictments follow .
Now...you understand?

Isn’t there something more pressing that you should be doing right now?

 

[Bithabus]

If you make a mistake on the form you can fill out a new form. If the shop doesn't want your business, go to a different shop.

 

[TreyG-20]

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References Unintended Consequences as well as a laundry list of other “wtf”

Use y’all’s best judgement.

Smelled fishy the first time around for sure. Now it just stinks.

 

[mp_tx]

Okay. Let me spell it out since you cant do it on your own.

ATF creates new troll account
Comes on and says they are not allowed to legally purchase firearm...was denied...questions the basis ...starts saying the laws are not fair and shouldn't exist
Says he wants a gun
Someone contacts him through a PM offering to sell him a gun or offering a way for him to get around the 4473 , with knowledge they were denied...


Indictments follow .
Now...you understand?

Wow. You can really connect the dots. It’s so obvious now. To think I almost got sucked into this overly sophisticated covert ATF trap. It’s so clear now. My guns and freedom thank you.....


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[toddnjoyce]

Actually, it seemed pretty obvious something was fishy from the OPs first post here.

Hello, I was going to attend some gun shows in Texas and I'm trying to get a good deal, how do you distinguish from private sellers and regular vendors?

I was looking for a used gun, private sellers will probably have better deals right? And general advice on going to a gun show.

That exact post showed up in two or three threads.

 

[jordanmills]

Actually, it seemed pretty obvious something was fishy from the OPs first post here.



That exact post showed up in two or three threads.

Yeah I was just going back and looking like it. Now he's glowing like a light bulb.

 

[avvidclif]

Oh also, I am also reading now learning that there are different kinds of involuntary commitments.

Civil commitments (involuntary, non-forensic), and then criminal court (involuntary, forensic) commitments.

Isn’t that interesting. Not sure how that factors in with 4473.

Would be nice if that was mentioned somewhere on the form so that we could understand if that matters.

Wouldn’t have been that hard to slip that in somewhere so I wouldn’t have to go searching through a chain of four government documents to figure out if that matters. As it stands, I’ve got no clue if it makes a shit.

It would require 50 different 4473's as state laws vary from state to state.

 

[candcallen]

Okay. Let me spell it out since you cant do it on your own.

ATF creates new troll account
Comes on and says they are not allowed to legally purchase firearm...was denied...questions the basis ...starts saying the laws are not fair and shouldn't exist
Says he wants a gun
Someone contacts him through a PM offering to sell him a gun or offering a way for him to get around the 4473 , with knowledge they were denied...


Indictments follow .
Now...you understand?

The black helo circling overhead is a dead giveaway.

 

[V-Tach]

We certainly don't know the details of the OP's incident, and neither does he evidently.

I will be interested to see how he is going to go about resolving his concerns upon his return to the thread..........

 

[candcallen]

The way he was posting his returning to the thread may be conditional on a 3 day hold.

Seriously,
Talk about a caricature of an early 2000s Rawwn Pawwl sycophant.

 

[majormadmax]

 

[candcallen]

The way he was posting his returning to the thread may be conditional on a 3 day hold.

Seriously,
Talk about a caricature of an early 2000s Rawwn Pawwl sycophant.

Come to think about it, he really overplayed the Rawwn Pawwl Libertarian thing like the left always overplayed their hands. Lol




Look at al you conspiracy nuts. Lol

Er..what?

 

[easy rider]

If only a lawyer could help me out with my boating accident.

 

[perfor8]

Man the good ol' days/golden days of firearms must of been the 1960s when you could just mail-order a Lahti L-39 20mm rifle with no paperwork or anything. Back when people had real gun rights.

Libertarianism is the way to go, abolish the ATF.

I have an extra Lahti I've been thinkin' about gettin' rid of. PM me.

 

[mike6tx]

The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution.