Maybe I would support open carry based on the following: if you are licensed to conceal carry you are allowed to open carry if you choose. In other words, if you are not licensed to conceal carry, then you are prohibited from open carry.
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I think we should require a license to partake of your right to free speech sometimes ... mostly when I read things like this. Then I remember that we live in America, which is still the greatest country in the world, though definitely headed in the wrong direction. Actually, maybe we should just amend the line that says "inalienable rights" to something like "inalienable right as long as your rulers say so". That might work.
My friend,
Based on your comment, please allow me to recommend a book by Mark Levin "Liberty and Tyranny". The important concept for many to understand is that of maintaining a civil society at the same time promoting liberty and freedom.
Based on your comment, please allow me to recommend a book by Mark Levin "Liberty and Tyranny". The important concept for many to understand is that of maintaining a civil society at the same time promoting liberty and freedom.
When you violate the very principles upon which your society is built, you're already on the road to tyranny. As for maintaining a civil society, an armed society only threatens two groups of people - criminals and politicians. Wait, that's only one group.
LOL.....I agree as to the one group!! Believe me, I do support an armed citizenry, but that is not the same as open carry in my opinion.
The particulars of how to accomplish an armed society can be discussed ad nauseum. My only point to this is the denial of open carry is very simply an infringement upon American citizens' inalienable right to keep and bear arms. Any abridgment of that right is an erosion to our rights. For people to willingly forego aspects of that right and still claim to support it is illogical.
It should be my choice to carry open, not the choice of our overlords.
Big country
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I definitely think that it is a right granted to us by the united states constitution. But I just don't ............. I don't know I guess I'm still conflicted on this topic.
One more thing guys and gals. I have noticed that some of the arguments for either side are starting to get a little personal. Try and remember we're all friends here when the smoke clears.
One more thing guys and gals. I have noticed that some of the arguments for either side are starting to get a little personal. Try and remember we're all friends here when the smoke clears.
texas_teacher
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After you're done being the ignorant one maybe take a gander over and reread my post as well... At no point do I ever disagree with your remarks, in fact I support them with more general examples instead of the way that you yourself would carry... The comments were meant in support of our choice and our rights if you reread it... If I'm getting onto you reread some of my earlier posts where I make rough use of people's words...
Ignorance is in the eye of the society not in the eye of the beholder...
Sometimes in a truly free society, people are going to do things you just don't like. As long as they aren't harming anyone, then you just have to live with it. If they're harming someone/society, then you have to make the consequences prohibitive. Open carry doesn't harm a soul.
One of the many problems in our country is that too many people have taken up crusading for behavior modification.
As for the latter part of your comment, I certainly hope no one has taken any of my comments personally, and if they seemed directed as such, I apologize. I feel strongly about the subject, and voice my opinion accordingly. I do not wish to level any attacks on anyone, however.
/tip hat
Big country
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See, to me that's where we ought to be legislating. Everyone ought to be trained to use a firearm (potential militia duties). I'd much rather go the Swiss route and have every household required to keep and maintain a firearm and require training for said firearm.
texas_teacher
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You're welcome...
You STILL don't get it. Constitutional RIGHT.
I am sure glad you are not in the Texas legislature.... or is this your way of getting your kicks...... to watch peoples blood boil.
Big country
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First of all that is a quote of me labeled as a post buy eriadoc. LOL!
But I see the constitutional right to open carry and do not deny that. But if said drug dealer is in fact carrying concealed legally (I doubt it to) then we wouldn't know about it anyway, but if said drug dealer is carrying openly and the law allowed it then just the fact that they are carrying a weapon would no longer be probable cause to stop them and question them as to how there business is doing.
But I see the constitutional right to open carry and do not deny that. But if said drug dealer is in fact carrying concealed legally (I doubt it to) then we wouldn't know about it anyway, but if said drug dealer is carrying openly and the law allowed it then just the fact that they are carrying a weapon would no longer be probable cause to stop them and question them as to how there business is doing.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Sounds to me like open carry is a right. Anything else is an infringement. I'm not a lawyer, scholar, politician, cop, or soccer mom, so ...
We could get into felons carrying, old wild west precedents, safety, percieved safety, etc., but in my mind, we have the right. Would I do it? probably not. Would I say hang a felon high? In a heartbeat.
Sounds to me like open carry is a right. Anything else is an infringement. I'm not a lawyer, scholar, politician, cop, or soccer mom, so ...
We could get into felons carrying, old wild west precedents, safety, percieved safety, etc., but in my mind, we have the right. Would I do it? probably not. Would I say hang a felon high? In a heartbeat.
Big country
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I have met some felons that have done there time and come back into society to be productive, fairly successful and pretty good guys. I work with a guy (he's not in security) that did a stretch I don't ask what for but I know he did and he is a good guy. I guarantee he wouldn't carry a weapon. but I have also met a few that would if there was a way they could get around being stopped and questioned. It is a right afforded us by the US constitution and should be legal. I just think that there needs to be some details ironed out as to how some other things directly effected by open carry.
