Pistol Brace Amnesty/Registration

[majormadmax]

Tomorrow is 137 days and I just checked. Still shows Submitted in process. Others who filed around the same date have already got their approval, some multiple approvals.

I wish I knew how they process these things. I know it's not alphabetical or chronologically and I know it's not background related.

I wish I'd just get an answer cause honestly I would have paid the full price and I also need a suppressor to finish the package on my Ap5. Waiting on that till this is done. It will probably be next years Xmas or anniversary gift.

Maybe I should send a gift basket to our hard working ATF folks? Seriously it's gotta be monotonous laborious droning kinda work.

Form 1 or 4? Hardcopy or electronic filing?

I sympathize, as I am almost at three times the "average" processing time being advertised for my eForm 1.

There simply isn't an excuse for this given it was the ATF's reversal that caused all this to happen.

They'll claim the background checks are backlogged at the FBI.

That's BS as a NICS check can be done in minutes and isn't even required for a license holder.

I believe after 60 days, these should be automatic approvals and let the ATF figure out how to operate more efficiently or to quit changing its mind as to what is a stock versus a brace!

To be honest, I actually understand that these braces were used as stocks for a decade. But it doesn't really matter a hill of beans what is on the non-business end of a AR!

The two items as so similar the ATF should have ruled those with braces can replace them with a stock.

As I said, it's time to put the ball in the hands of our elected representatives!

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

They're supposed to physically mail you something? It's not 1990 anymore...

They're supposed to send everyone a "welcome packet". Includes a little swag. They sent out an email apologizing and saying it'll come eventually. Not a big deal but time will tell.

 

[Darkpriest667]

They're supposed to send everyone a "welcome packet". Includes a little swag. They sent out an email apologizing and saying it'll come eventually. Not a big deal but time will tell.

honestly after following them on twitter I dont even care, they are so badass and awesome. They are the gun rights legal advocates we really NEED. As much as I love GOA I love FPC more.

Literally FPC Tweets "No **** you" to democrat politicians when they post gun control legislation tweets.

 

[Otto_Mation]

Has anybody that joined recently received their membership from FPC?

I just looked through my stack of 2A advocacy membership cards and I am not seeing one from FPC, so I have not received it. I do get a lot of email from them though.

 

[glenbo]

Got this from FPC on Monday.

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

honestly after following them on twitter I dont even care,

true story.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I just looked through my stack of 2A advocacy membership cards and I am not seeing one from FPC, so I have not received it. I do get a lot of email from them though.

I get emails asking for money almost daily.

 

[RoadRunner]

I think that it would be good if we had a forum for the FPC like we have for the GOA, SAF and etc.

 

[majormadmax]

Here's a question, what will I have to engrave on my new SBR if/when my eForm 1 gets approved?

Per this, as the "maker" all I see I have to add is my name and location (city and state) as listd on my approved form.

ATF NFA Engraving Requirements Walk-Through Guide

How to guide and walk-through guide for the ATF NFA Engraving Requirements for the ATF 5320.1 or eForm1 Applications “All NFA firearms must be identified by a serial number and other specified markings.” This guide will help you with the information that is required to be engraved on the NFA...

www.nationalguntrusts.com

Also, "the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch"

Any suggestions on the best place to ad this info? I'd like it as inconspicuously as possible, but remaining legal.

Also, what's the usual rate for someone to do this? I'm seeing ~$50 from random places online...

Lastly, am I presuming correctly that information stays even when the SBR is transferred? The maker doesn't change.

It's seems straightforward, which is what worries me!

 

[benenglish]

I think that it would be good if we had a forum for the FPC like we have for the GOA, SAF and etc.

I forwarded the suggestion but I don't wholly support it. That subforum gets so little traffic that a new section is most likely to be a waste of effort. I know I pushed for the creation of those areas and to see them used so little has been rather disappointing.

 

[Otto_Mation]

Here's a question, what will I have to engrave on my new SBR if/when my eForm 1 gets approved?

Per this, as the "maker" all I see I have to add is my name and location (city and state) as listd on my approved form.

ATF NFA Engraving Requirements Walk-Through Guide

How to guide and walk-through guide for the ATF NFA Engraving Requirements for the ATF 5320.1 or eForm1 Applications “All NFA firearms must be identified by a serial number and other specified markings.” This guide will help you with the information that is required to be engraved on the NFA...

www.nationalguntrusts.com

Also, "the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch"

Any suggestions on the best place to ad this info? I'd like it as inconspicuously as possible, but remaining legal.

Also, what's the usual rate for someone to do this? I'm seeing ~$50 from random places online...

Lastly, am I presuming correctly that information stays even when the SBR is transferred? The maker doesn't change.

It's seems straightforward, which is what worries me!

If you registered under the brace rule you do not need to engrave. The existing engraving on the frame is adopted.

From the FAQ:

Once the firearm is registered, am I required to mark the firearm since I manufactured a short-barreled rifle (SBR)?

If the SBR equipped with a “stabilizing brace” is registered by May 31, 2023, the possessor is allowed to adopt the markings on the firearm. The maker’s marking exception is only applicable to firearms that are registered pursuant to the final rule. If the firearm is a personally made firearm, the possessor must mark in accordance with 27 CFR 478.92 & 479.102 prior to submitting the E-Form 1.

 

[majormadmax]

146 days today...and still crickets!

My concern is if there isn't a budget passed by this Friday, and no continuing resolution, there will be a government shutdown on 1 Oct.
Federal agencies will stop all actions deemed "non-essential," and millions of federal employees, including members of the military, won’t receive paychecks.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice Contingency Plan for Fiscal Year 2019, only the following operations within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) continued operating with the lapse in appropriations:

• All agents in ATF field divisions who conduct criminal investigations in firearms, arson, explosives, alcohol and tobacco programs;
• Industry Operations Investigators (IOIs) who conduct compliance inspections of Federal Firearms and Federal Explosives Licensees as well as application inspections; and
• Personnel who collect, review and analyze intelligence data in support of criminal investigations.

Headquarters support (Washington, DC and Martinsburg, WVA) will be maintained only to the extend necessary to support excepted operations, including approvals necessary to support law enforcement and the U.S. military. In addition, the Director of ATF is not subject to furlough because the Director is a Presidential Appointee.

That last government shutdown in late 2018 to early 2019 lasted 35 days, the longest in US history (out of 21 shutdowns)

So the same bureaucrats who have sat on my application for nearly three times longer than it should have will get a paid vacation while I wait even longer!

 

[Mike_from_Texas]

146 days today...and still crickets!

My concern is if there isn't a budget passed by this Friday, and no continuing resolution, there will be a government shutdown on 1 Oct.
Federal agencies will stop all actions deemed "non-essential," and millions of federal employees, including members of the military, won’t receive paychecks.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice Contingency Plan for Fiscal Year 2019, only the following operations within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) continued operating with the lapse in appropriations:

• All agents in ATF field divisions who conduct criminal investigations in firearms, arson, explosives, alcohol and tobacco programs;
• Industry Operations Investigators (IOIs) who conduct compliance inspections of Federal Firearms and Federal Explosives Licensees as well as application inspections; and
• Personnel who collect, review and analyze intelligence data in support of criminal investigations.

Headquarters support (Washington, DC and Martinsburg, WVA) will be maintained only to the extend necessary to support excepted operations, including approvals necessary to support law enforcement and the U.S. military. In addition, the Director of ATF is not subject to furlough because the Director is a Presidential Appointee.

That last government shutdown in late 2018 to early 2019 lasted 35 days, the longest in US history (out of 21 shutdowns)

So the same bureaucrats who have sat on my application for nearly three times longer than it should have will get a paid vacation while I wait even longer!

Play with snakes and you’re gonna get bit.


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[BigRed]

146 days today...and still crickets!

My concern is if there isn't a budget passed by this Friday, and no continuing resolution, there will be a government shutdown on 1 Oct.
Federal agencies will stop all actions deemed "non-essential," and millions of federal employees, including members of the military, won’t receive paychecks.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice Contingency Plan for Fiscal Year 2019, only the following operations within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) continued operating with the lapse in appropriations:

• All agents in ATF field divisions who conduct criminal investigations in firearms, arson, explosives, alcohol and tobacco programs;
• Industry Operations Investigators (IOIs) who conduct compliance inspections of Federal Firearms and Federal Explosives Licensees as well as application inspections; and
• Personnel who collect, review and analyze intelligence data in support of criminal investigations.

Headquarters support (Washington, DC and Martinsburg, WVA) will be maintained only to the extend necessary to support excepted operations, including approvals necessary to support law enforcement and the U.S. military. In addition, the Director of ATF is not subject to furlough because the Director is a Presidential Appointee.

That last government shutdown in late 2018 to early 2019 lasted 35 days, the longest in US history (out of 21 shutdowns)

So the same bureaucrats who have sat on my application for nearly three times longer than it should have will get a paid vacation while I wait even longer!

If only there was an amendment documenting the natural rights that preceeded the constitution of the States.

 

[MountainGirl]

If only there was an amendment documenting the natural rights that preceeded the constitution of the States.

Agree with the sentiment, yet anything that includes - by definition excludes.

Being born should be enough; it is for me, anyway.

 

[majormadmax]

Play with snakes and you’re gonna get bit.

Go ahead and fear the Fed...it's what they want!

 

[Darkpriest667]

FPC AND FPCAF WIN: Fifth Circuit Rules that ATF Pistol Brace Rule is Likely Illegal

Today, Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) and FPC Action Foundation (FPCAF) announced that the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled in Mock v. Garland, finding that FPC and FPCAF are likely to win on the merits of their lawsuit challenging ATF’s pistol brace rule.

www.firearmspolicy.org

The District court has less than 4 days to rule on this. I bet they rule Friday afternoon 3 minutes before close of business.

 

[candcallen]

At 151pm today I got my approved Email. Finally.

They must have liked the cookies I sent. Lol

 

[Mike_from_Texas]

Go ahead and fear the Fed...it's what they want!

I’m not the one that apparently registered a legal AR pistol.


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[smittyb]

0 days since I didn’t send in shît, and my pistol braces are still just fine.