Then you deserve it.
yes exactly me saying yes sir no sir and informing him I have a CHL makes it so I deserve to have a gun pointed at me, Get the **** out of here troll
Then you deserve it.
Son (), I hate to admit you seem to be correct. Even the Attorney General of Texas will, apparently, tell you to go pound sand: https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/ag_publications/txts/ag_foryou.shtml#8by saying its not a normal department I just meant its a small office with a few guys they don't have people to go complain to like a normal PD its them and that's pretty much it.
I understand that filing a complaint or report of some kind with them isn't likely to help; even in larger departments, citizen complaints sometimes don't go very far. You'd have to go over their heads to get any attention if you decide to press the issue. Since the cop was all chatty and polite (other than pointing a gun at you) and only gave you a warning, I could understand how you'd probably be content to just let it drop.by saying its not a normal department I just meant its a small office with a few guys they don't have people to go complain to like a normal PD its them and that's pretty much it.
Agreed but like Shorts said, there's a trail IF he sends it certified.Son (), I hate to admit you seem to be correct. Even the Attorney General of Texas will, apparently, tell you to go pound sand: https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/ag_publications/txts/ag_foryou.shtml#8
Absent misconduct that rises to the level of a civil rights violation or something that can be prosecuted under RICO, the Feds won't be any help, either.
A letter to various city officials might be filed away and might benefit someone in the future or it might just get shredded.
The situation sucks but I'm awfully glad you're OK.
I feel the same way but, then again, I've always been in favor of useless gestures if they have the slightest potential to do good. I can certainly understand why he might figure it's not worth the trouble.Again, I'm not beating on your son (), but I really wish he'd file.
Uhhh, whoever told you that was wrong.
Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 1999
Even assuming all 57 of the violent deaths that year happened at traffic stops (no... obviously), more cops died from on the job heart attacks (that's a shockingly high number) and traffic accidents (60 total). In fact by those stats, accidental deaths were more common than violent ones in 1999 and the crime rate (and death by gunfire rate among cops) has only gone down since then.
Forgive me for using such a shoddy source.
Strengthening The Citizen and Law Enforcement Partnership: Traffic Stops Are Dangerous
I don't think you two are citing sources that disagree very much, possibly not at all. The wording on the NHTSA.GOV site does not rule out including all traffic-related deaths, whether or not they are incidental to any traffic stop. If you read it that way, both sites can be used to support a statement that, to quote the NHTSA site, "...over half of all officer, line-of-duty deaths were related to traffic incidences."
Using the stats on the ODMP.ORG site, add up the deaths from any incident tied, by a very broad definition, to traffic. Out of a total of 151 deaths, there were:
Automobile accident: 39
Motorcycle accident: 6
Struck by train: 1
Struck by vehicle: 8
Vehicle pursuit: 6
Vehicular assault: 9
That's 69 of 151 deaths that can, by the generalized language of the NHTSA site, possibly be included in the total for traffic-related deaths. If just 7 or more (a completely reasonable assumption) of the 43 deaths by deliberate gunfire happened at traffic stops, then more than half of all officer deaths are related to "traffic incidences", though not specifically "traffic stops".
Reasonable?
Two last points -
1. Didn't Second Chance, for the longest time, claim that the majority of officer lives saved by their vests were due to protection provided during a car wreck?
2. I think the NHTSA site should use the word "incidents" rather than "incidences". The inclusion of all traffic incidents, even those that do not involve a stop, would have been clearer if they had used the right word. See: The difference between incidence and incidents (grammar lesson)
Wow. I've had two traffic stops while carrying. Once by city traffic cop. When I told him I was carrying all he said was not to reach for it. He also didn't give me a ticket. The second time by a county deputy. I had two guns, one on me and another laying under my jacket in the passenger seat. Again, when I informed him he asked if they were loaded. I said yes. He said don't reach for them. But he did issue me a ticket, and I had to take a class to get it dismissed.
Odd how different cops do things differently. Or maybe I just don't look like a threat.
I feel the same way but, then again, I've always been in favor of useless gestures if they have the slightest potential to do good. I can certainly understand why he might figure it's not worth the trouble.
To be honest no. I wasn't looking to in the first place it's pointless there I didn't think this many people would reply just wondered if it happened to anyone else.
That being said it's a 6-8 person police force they don't and won't do anything about it I lived there over a year. They wouldn't even open the door when I tried to talk to them about almost running me over, doing doughnuts in my yard, and tried to report an officer harassing me for being in my own driveway weekly sometimes more.
I'm better off talking to a wall honestly.
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Am I missing something here or did I not directly quote you?yes exactly me saying yes sir no sir and informing him I have a CHL makes it so I deserve to have a gun pointed at me, Get the **** out of here troll
I feel ornery this morning....
Or, like in current fashion, video tape the stop and youtube it. That'll get attention quick.
Disclaimer, you'll likely get shot by Officer McFingeron DeTrigger
Ok ok, don't do that.
Mike, sounds like you've moved on from that area. Probably the best thing for yall to do. Doesn't sound like the kind of environment I'd like to live etither.