Texas 87th Legislative Session Pre-filed Gun Bills

[bbbass]

Yeah that horseshit ain't gonna fly here in Texas. No way.

I hope not.

Is it still ok to shoot people breaking into your neighbor's house?

 

[Axxe55]

I hope not.

Is it still ok to shoot people breaking into your neighbor's house?

I think it would depend upon the circumstances.

If the neighbor was not home, I'd guess probably not okay. If the neighbors were home and you clearly demonstrated, or they did being in fear for their lives, I'd guess probably okay.

That is entirely a guess.

 

[bbbass]

I think it would depend upon the circumstances.

If the neighbor was not home, I'd guess probably not okay. If the neighbors were home and you clearly demonstrated, or they did being in fear for their lives, I'd guess probably okay.

That is entirely a guess.

Reason I ask is that there was a case years ago, IIRC in TX, that a guy heard a ruckus next door at his neighbor's house while the neighbor was on vacay, called 911, told dispatch he was gonna go out and shoot the two intruders, and did so. The whole thing was recorded by dispatch, the man claimed they appeared threatening, no charges. It was reported that it is ok to defend neighbor's possessions.

Here we can't. Deadly force not authorized over property. Only in cases of threat of immediate bodily harm to self/you or others. Look up Michael Strickland case (not property, twas AntiFA) ... guilty of brandishing or whatever even tho a disparity of force was evident.

God bless Texas!!!

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Reason I ask is that there was a case years ago, IIRC in TX, that a guy heard a ruckus next door at his neighbor's house while the neighbor was on vacay, called 911, told dispatch he was gonna go out and shoot the two intruders, and did so. The whole thing was recorded by dispatch, the man claimed they appeared threatening, no charges. It was reported that it is ok to defend neighbor's possessions.

Here we can't. Deadly force not authorized over property. Only in cases of threat of immediate bodily harm to self/you or others. Look up Michael Strickland case (not property, twas AntiFA) ... guilty of brandishing or whatever even tho a disparity of force was evident.

God bless Texas!!!

Joe Horn.

 

[bbbass]

Joe Horn.

Yes, thank you for the reminder/info.

Just to note that Oregon does not have a "Castle Doctrine" or a "SYG" law per se... what it is here is no law requiring a duty to retreat. Which I think is reasonable. So far. A Dim controlled legislature and governor busy trying to change it all. Only two walkouts have saved us so far...

 

[oldag]

Yeah that horseshit ain't gonna fly here in Texas. No way.

Well, over 5 million people in Texas voted for Biden...

 

[Wiliamr]

I continue to tell the gun shooting people I know to get out and to visit with non shooting people. Listen to people in restuarants etc, and you will be amazed at how many people are embracing the Democrat - socialist Party line. The cities will soon control the elections here as they do in California, New York, Illinois, Washington and Oregon.

 

[cycleguy2300]

This isn't related to any of those bills, but if this winner is your rep, you should be working to get her out:
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The state is not the giver of rights, they are inherent in the individual, the state cannot take away my right to defend MY property as I see fit. If someone values my property more than their life, they made that choice, not me.

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[cycleguy2300]

I think it would depend upon the circumstances.

If the neighbor was not home, I'd guess probably not okay. If the neighbors were home and you clearly demonstrated, or they did being in fear for their lives, I'd guess probably okay.

That is entirely a guess.

Reasonable defense of others...
Criminal mischief at night...

Youre gtg as long as you articulate what you reasonably believed at the time you REASONABLY acted. READ THE LAW AND CASE LAW.

E.G. Just because deadly force is authorized for criminal mischief at night when reasonable doesn't mean you have a free ticket to blast anyone checking the box of "criminal mischief at night" it still has to be a REASONABLE use of force/deadly force.

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[Axxe55]

Reasonable defense of others...
Criminal mischief at night...

Youre gtg as long as you articulate what you reasonably believed at the time you REASONABLY acted. READ THE LAW AND CASE LAW.

E.G. Just because deadly force is authorized for criminal mischief at night when reasonable doesn't mean you have a free ticket to blast anyone checking the box of "criminal mischief at night" it still has to be a REASONABLE use of force/deadly force.

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That makes it much clearer. Circumstances would dictate where and when up to deadly force was authorized IMO.

 

[Wiliamr]

The concept of "reasonably" is one that often escapes people. If it is at night and someone is breaking into your car, and you surprise him - he runs away, shooting him is not reasonable and most prosecutors will take the case to trail. If that same person chrges you with a machete and swings it at you and you shoot him, force met with force of a reasonable kind. Now in Travis County, you will still have to spend bucks to get the persecutor to back of. In Van Horn County you will get sent home with a beer.

 

[toddnjoyce]

More filings presented as ‘common-sense’ gun control. Both need to die.

Texas Legislature Online
Subject Alert
The following bills were assigned subjects of interest:

Subject: Weapons

HB 791
Relating to displaying a firearm at or near a public demonstration; creating a criminal offense.
- No more displaying guns at protests

HB 799
Relating to prohibiting carrying a firearm while intoxicated; creating a criminal offense.
- creates UCW Intoxicated in addition to the current 46.035 UCW that applies to license holders.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Texas Legislature Online
Subject Alert

The following bills were assigned subjects of interest:

Subject: Weapons
HB 821
Relating to the eligibility for a license to carry a handgun.
- Appears to significantly streamline eligibility. I need to go back and read the whole thing though.

HB 825
Relating to the removal of a fee for the issuance of an original, duplicate, modified, or renewed license to carry a handgun.
- Haven’t read it.

SB 242
Relating to requiring a national instant criminal background check in connection with private firearm transfers; creating a criminal offense.
- Senate companion to NICS for private transfers. Kill it.

 

[Windrunner50]

How did anyone vote for an ignorant Fool like her? She clearly wants to destroy Texas with her Communist, Liberal views. Maybe she should run for office in CA or NY?

 

[toddnjoyce]

Good one, for once.

Texas Legislature Online
Subject Alert

The following bills were assigned subjects of interest:

Subject: Weapons
HB 915
Relating to exempting the intrastate manufacture of a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition from federal regulation.

 

[Bozz10mm]

Good one, for once.

Texas Legislature Online
Subject Alert

The following bills were assigned subjects of interest:

Subject: Weapons
HB 915
Relating to exempting the intrastate manufacture of a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition from federal regulation.

Just read about this. Trying to understand the implications. No stamp required for SBRs or suppressors if made in Texas? How would that work with the FFLs? Would full auto be legal to manufacture under state law? So many questions to be answered, lol.

 

[roadkill]

Just read about this. Trying to understand the implications. No stamp required for SBRs or suppressors if made in Texas? How would that work with the FFLs? Would full auto be legal to manufacture under state law? So many questions to be answered, lol.

Didn’t Indiana or some other Midwest state try this only to have the feds still come after and convict the guy taking advantage of that law? Yea it sucks the feds will turn a blind eye to marijuana laws but double down on the gun laws.

 

[roadkill]

Found it. Was Kansas not Indiana. I’d bet the same would happen here. Good way to get in trouble.

No jail time for Kansas men who thought state law trumped NFA requirements :: Guns.com

A federal judge on Monday handed down probation to two men found guilty of violating federal law on manufacturing and possessing silencers despite their belief state law protected their actions.

www.guns.com

 

[Bozz10mm]

Didn’t Indiana or some other Midwest state try this only to have the feds still come after and convict the guy taking advantage of that law? Yea it sucks the feds will turn a blind eye to marijuana laws but double down on the gun laws.

It might keep the local and state police off your back and out of your house, but not the Feds. Still might come in handy when/if Biden outlaws semi auto rifles, braces, and standard capacity magazines. Who makes those things in Texas tho?

 

[popper]

One was convicted of manufacture, the other for use. In case anyone has not noticed, the courts are pretty worthless in the US anymore. There actually is very little use of the NFA stuff anymore. Originally 'invented' as the crooks outgunned the cops with BAR/tommy guns. Cite me the forensic evidence that someone has murdered/shot a lot of people with silenced guns please! Or even funnier, automatic weapons? No TV show reports. was watching an episode of NCIS LA - they forgot to paint out the barrels of the play guns in the episode!! Those electric case ejectors are pretty neat. Must use 'flash' powder loads.