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  • majormadmax

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    I was very recently in Colorado. To be honest, a lot of people act (and drive) like they are stoned. Of course, that place always attracted the hippy/earthy liberal types. I don't think legalization has done them any favors.

    And no, I could not "partake" because of my job. The closest I got was grabbing a pamphlet on Colorado's marijuana laws from the hotel lobby as I thought it would be funny! :clown:

    One other thing, I stopped by Dragonman's hoping to pick up some AK magazines as I got some Chinese flatbacks from him a long time ago at a great price. When I was there, I noticed all the mags had rivets about halfway down the spline, then I remembered that they now have magazine limitations of 15 rounds (it's been a while since I've been up there).
    Honestly, it's becoming another great state ruined by the liberal agenda! :spank:
     

    rman

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    i often describe myself as being so conservative that I offend myself. That said, legalize pot already. Big pharma is killing people and pot continues to be discovered as a heal-all.

    And no, I don't smoke pot. But seeing both my parents in situations where it could help, and possibly have prevented or slowed various ailments, it frustrates me.

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    My angle on this. Once upon a time I was prescribed over 11 pills from the Veteran affairs. All the nasty crap you can think of. Sickening feeling that I've shortened my life by government doctors is constant.

    Then a brain specialist says something off record. Then another lower doctor says something. Then it's pharmaceutical free existence. Everything they try to copy has already been invented by nature. It's wild to believe but it's true.
     

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    i often describe myself as being so conservative that I offend myself. That said, legalize pot already. Big pharma is killing people and pot continues to be discovered as a heal-all.

    And no, I don't smoke pot. But seeing both my parents in situations where it could help, and possibly have prevented or slowed various ailments, it frustrates me.

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    I'm not sure pot heals anything, although it may be a better pain reliever and not as bad for you as stronger drugs.
     

    SQLGeek

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    Smoking is bad for you ....

    Whataburger isn't doing me any favors either but I sure miss my A-1 thick and hearty. The way I see it, if people want to enjoy it without harming others, then knock yourself out.

    Considering the history of marijuana prohibition and the outright failure of the war on drugs, I see little reason to keep weed illegal. And no, I don't consume it. But I sure as hell would rather use it than stuff my body full of opioids if I needed relief from chronic pain.
     

    rman

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    I'm not sure pot heals anything, although it may be a better pain reliever and not as bad for you as stronger drugs.
    i might be wrong, but I thought it had been proven it actually kills cancer cells.

    Also a direct correlation with helping diabetes, dementia/alzheimers, asthma (seriously), seizures, etc etc etc.
    Whataburger isn't doing me any favors either but I sure miss my A-1 thick and hearty. The way I see it, if people want to enjoy it without harming others, then knock yourself out.

    Considering the history of marijuana prohibition and the outright failure of the war on drugs, I see little reason to keep weed illegal. And no, I don't consume it. But I sure as hell would rather use it than stuff my body full of opioids if I needed relief from chronic pain.
    I have read (titles, at least) stories of people overcoming opioid addiction via pot

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    easy rider

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    I hadn't heard of pot as a cure, although I could be wrong. The first legal users of pot, if I'm not mistaken, was glaucoma patients. It helped with the pain (headaches) better then most other drugs. It didn't cure it, but made it much more bearable.
     

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    IMHO the side effects of weed are preferable to the side effects of opioids, especially from a societal cost POV.

    Same goes for weed versus booze.

    Some people need vices and will find a way to scratch that itch one way or another.

    I'm not a weed smoker so don't really give a shit either way...


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    rman

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    I hadn't heard of pot as a cure, although I could be wrong. The first legal users of pot, if I'm not mistaken, was glaucoma patients. It helped with the pain (headaches) better then most other drugs. It didn't cure it, but made it much more bearable.
    i think glaucoma was right.
    IMHO the side effects of weed are preferable to the side effects of opioids, especially from a societal cost POV.

    Same goes for weed versus booze.

    Some people need vices and will find a way to scratch that itch one way or another.

    I'm not a weed smoker so don't really give a shit either way...


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    the thing is, there isn't much wrong about it. Sitting at a stop sign too long? Ate too many funyuns?

    Sessions likens it to heroin, which is absolutely insane.

    Yes, now with recreational use being legalized a few issues have popped up, like TB in CO... but for medicinal purposes, edibles, pills, tinctures, etc.

    I just don't see the danger in it, especially when people can legally get shitfaced drunk and do all sorts of crazy shit.

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    Darkpriest667

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    Frankly I'm a former drug addict and I smoked weed for 11 years... I stopped (October will be 10 years clean) cause it started giving me crazy panic attacks... Quitting was great for me because I got off my ass and did something with my life, that being said I don't find alcohol or any of the opioids to be preferable to marijuana. Legalizing weed puts a huge dent in the cartels and I'm all for that. Prohibitions of anything (drugs, alcohol, prostitution etc) create black markets in which organized crime thrives off of.
     

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    But, Houston,. We still have a problem that needs solved. There is not a reliable way to prove that a person is actively inebriated by marijuana. So, high flying driving can only be enforced by trusting the judgement of enforcement officers. That makes it an expensive proposition because judgements can be challenged in court because they are not reliable.

    The cause needs a means to determine when a user is actually high. Current tech can only determine whether a person has been exposed in the most recent month or so. Raise your hand if you are willing to give up a month's driving privilege so you can smoke a joint. It is really that or deal with the additional legal costs of prosecuting folks that are accused of poor/dangerous decision making.

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    I don't have a problem with people using pot, if they are at home or staying off the roads. And I certainly am not against medicinal use. I would be concerned if now instead of those drinking and driving and that is too often, add to that more being high and driving.
     

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    I was very recently in Colorado. To be honest, a lot of people act (and drive) like they are stoned
    The last time I was in Colorado was years ago. Except for the people taking the same pistol class as me, it seemed that everyone was either stoned or in the business. This was before legalization but landowners who brought their clothes to the local washateria openly discussed the state of their "crops". The waitresses at the local eatery were setting up deals on their phones within clear earshot of customers. The guy who managed my motel was so consistently stoned he couldn't answer the door at the check-in desk without a couple of minutes of Febreze-and-fans before he'd stumble out to do business.

    Granted, I was in an off-season ski resort town where the "Gotta supply the partying tourists" infrastructure was baked into (Sorry for the bad pun.:)) the economic infrastructure of the place.

    Still, I found the whole situation surreal.
     

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    But, Houston,. We still have a problem that needs solved. There is not a reliable way to prove that a person is actively inebriated by marijuana. So, high flying driving can only be enforced by trusting the judgement of enforcement officers. That makes it an expensive proposition because judgements can be challenged in court because they are not reliable.

    The cause needs a means to determine when a user is actually high. Current tech can only determine whether a person has been exposed in the most recent month or so. Raise your hand if you are willing to give up a month's driving privilege so you can smoke a joint. It is really that or deal with the additional legal costs of prosecuting folks that are accused of poor/dangerous decision making.

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    Is there an objective field test for someone under the influence of opioids, muscle relaxers, prescription depressants or stimulants?

    I think only a BAC breathalyzer is the only objective test available?


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    rman

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    I thought ihad read awhile back there was a new way to test. But I don't recall what the method was

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