The FBI has changed

[vmax]

In 1992, they entrapped Randy Weaver into selling 2 shotguns to undercover agents that were 1/4 inch too short, then sent him a letter with a wrong court appearance date on purpose, so he would miss his appearance.
They then came on his land in gillie suits and camo, shot his dog, killed his 14 year old son, shot his wife in the head while she was holding her baby, shot Randy in the back as he was going to see his sons body, and shot his best friend, all because he visited a white supremacy group and they wanted him to be a mole.

Nowadays, you can be planning terror attacks, buying guns, working for a government contractor as a security guard, recruit coworkers for ISIS, get reported for it, make threats, and all they do is question you and say everything is fine.

 

[BRD@66]

FeeBees had more time on their hands in '92.

 

[txinvestigator]

Haahaa, yeah, that's not exactly factual.

 

[vmax]

Your damn right it's factual

 

[vmax]

Wait ...well maybe they didn't have gillie suits

 

[easy rider]

Of course there is the media version and we all know that's truthful.

 

[grasshopperglock]

Of course there is the media version and we all know that's truthful.

True That. They are GOD. Question them not.



It's on TV. Therefore it's automatically truth. Unquestionable. If you do. It's a conspiracy.

 

[Phoneguy]

vmax, you ever worked there?

 

[vmax]

No but I used to watch the X Files does that count?

 

[oldag]

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Thirty years ago, can you imagine the FBI letting Immigration tell them they can't interview a terrorist suspect? The FBI would not have left with their tail tucked between their legs.

 

[zincwarrior]

In 1992, they entrapped Randy Weaver into to selling 2 shotguns to undercover agents

That was the ATF.

They then came on his land in gillie suits and camo, shot his dog, killed his 14 year old son, shot his wife in the head while she was holding her baby, shot Randy in the back as he was going to see his sons body,

Thats disputed, and it was Federal Marshalls, not FBI.

all because he visited a white supremacy group and they wanted him to be a mole.

I suddenly feel less bad for him. Moral of the story don't be a racist dickhole?

 

[zincwarrior]

Your damn right it's factual

If by facts you mean errors, you are completely correct.

 

[majormadmax]

That was the ATF.

Thats disputed, and it was Federal Marshalls, not FBI.

I suddenly feel less bad for him. Moral of the story don't be a racist dickhole?

Quit confusing everyone with the facts. It dilutes the story!

 

[zincwarrior]

He is right though, THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!

 

[easy rider]

Ruby Ridge was the site of a deadly confrontation and siege in northern Idaho in 1992 between Randy Weaver, his family, his friend Kevin Harris, and agents of the United States Marshals Service (USMS) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). The events resulted in the death of Weaver's son Sammy, his wife Vicki, and their dog (Striker) as well as Deputy U.S. Marshal William Francis Degan.

 

[zincwarrior]

FBI didn't show until after the initial shootout, and US Marshall was killed.

If you don't want to be shot by an FBI agent in a "standoff" don't freaking shoot it out with marshalls and then refuse to surrender.

The FBI has no problem shooting it out with BGs, back to the 30s when they were formed and shoot it out with the Dillinger Gang, etc.

 

[easy rider]

The FBI was involved, along with the secret service, with this case before USMS and ATF.

 

[easy rider]

The surviving members of the Weaver family filed a wrongful death suit for $200 million. In an out-of-court settlement in August 1995, the federal government awarded Randy Weaver $100,000 and his three daughters $1 million each. The government did not admit any wrongdoing in the deaths of Sammy and Vicki.[SUP][65][/SUP][SUP][66][/SUP] On the condition of anonymity, a DOJ official told the Washington Post that he believed the Weavers probably would have won the full amount if the case had gone to trial.[SUP][67]

Must be BAD guys.[/SUP]

 

[BRD@66]

FBI didn't show until after the initial shootout, and US Marshall was killed.

If you don't want to be shot by an FBI agent in a "standoff" don't freaking shoot it out with marshalls and then refuse to surrender.

The FBI has no problem shooting it out with BGs, back to the 30s when they were formed and shoot it out with the Dillinger Gang, etc.

And sometimes, all it takes to make a 14 yr old into a BG is to shoot his dog.

 

[zincwarrior]

And sometimes, all it takes to make a 14 yr old into a BG is to shoot his dog.

Shoot his dog-he kills a marshall, then the rest of the family fortifies up. Yea, not caring.