VA Guardsman: we will not comply

[GunnutJack]

Here what I know..and believe.

The Virginia bills will pass, without question. Someone or a group will file a lawsuit in federal court. It will take 3.5yrs minimum and about 1.5 million dollars to overturn the laws with SCOTUS assuming SCOTUS will even hear the case. Democrats will delay as much as possible in hopes that The case won’t appear before SCOTUS before the 2024 election and their democratic president wins and takes office. if that’s the case SCOTUS will lean more liberal.

In the mean time, Virginia and the AG WILL enforce the laws, prosecute and send people to prison, those that they catch. The ones that they catch, will be the ones that are reported by someone else, or by those who are too stupid and take their illegal items in the car or other vehicle and get discovered in a traffic stop.

Another group of gun owners who don’t want to risk going to jail or being killed, will turn in their guns, or they will dispose of them as quickly as they can.

Another group will hide their illegal guns, and will tell everyone that they were lost in a fire, or boating accident, or stolen etc... They will sit by and do absolutely nothing in hopes that eventually the laws will change.

And finally the very last group, which will be a small minority will actually be willing to risk jail, as well as death and fight anyone who tries to take their guns. These are the ones you will hear in the news that killed a few officers and then were killed themselves.

maybe just maybe and hopefully will be a group of people that have held out as long as those in Waco did, or like other big mistakes and hold outs that the FBI and ATF have done in the past. However in this case, it will be the Virginia state police and sheriffs who are nowhere as well trained as the FBI and ATF, and will make a nationwide embarrassment of themselves.

The governor won’t call out the NG, because they would have to declare martial law, and by that time, I believe our federal government would step in.

Basically there won’t actually be enough people who will risk going to jail, and risk dying to get up and do what they can to prevent even forcibly any law enforcement come knocking on doors.

if Virginians are going to stop them going door to door, they will have to come together in thousands and all those thousands be willing to risk going to jail as well as loosing their lives for the cause. Sadly I think and believe that those numbers in Virginia willing to do that are less then 1000 in the entire state.

Seriously how many of you are willing to loose your life or go to prison fighting the cause and preventing door to door confiscation?

I am... but I don’t think many will.

Well said......

But honestly what guns?????

They should just say Obama raised the price of guns up so high. I JUST HAD TO SELL THEM BACK THEN!!!!

 

[GunnutJack]

I've lived 51 years....moved the heck away from Tom Wolfe's delusionality of what Pennsylvania should be.

My family had seen and heard of Bloomberg's monetary influences on neighboring states and we were getting sick of it.

When Texas started creating an action plan to succeed if Obama's Socialist ways were to go against our Constitution we took our First Vacation trip here.

Needless to say 3 years later after renovating our house we moved here.

Would have been sooner but the housing market for Pennsylvania was stagnant until Trump took office.

 

[GunnutJack]

I've lived 51 years....moved the heck away from Tom Wolfe's delusionality of what Pennsylvania should be.

My family had seen and heard of Bloomberg's monetary influences on neighboring states and we were getting sick of it.

When Texas started creating an action plan to succeed if Obama's Socialist ways were to go against our Constitution we took our First Vacation trip here.

Needless to say 3 years later after renovating our house we moved here.

Would have been sooner but the housing market for Pennsylvania was stagnant until Trump took office.

Texas Gun Rights are a bit different with hand gun transfers. (Not real keen on) Bill of sale transfer without an FFL background check) but at least you can buy what you want and own what you want without being persecuted for it like Pennsylvania.

 

[tonelar]

I think the laws they are proposing could be worse than California.
Although I watched the whole video, the first part explains the laws they are looking to enact in Va:

nothing theyre proposing doesnt alreadyexist in CA. just CA was incremental (taking place over a period of almost 50 years). the VA Demos are trying to do all that in 1 legislative session.

 

[Big Green]

During my 12 years enlisted (04-16) I talked with many folks concerning rights, freedoms and liberty. There were a few that believed in them outright, and a few you could reason with to understand why they are important. It was also during that time a survey was conducted about confiscating firearms and most seemed to agree it was wrong.

Having said that, I fear some may have fallen prey to ideologies not in line with the oath we took. Some enlisted, more junior officers.

Case in point. An officer, Major at the time though I knew him from a 1st Lieutenant, still not eligible for Captain. He was from Oklahoma, and from a tribe. You would think he would understand why civilians might need certain weapons. However, after he purchased his AR (not legal in NY where we were stationed), he stated that civilians should not have access to those kinds of firearms. I tried to argue that he, of all people, should see the need for weapons like that to protect themselves from a tyrannical government. Nope, absolutely deaf to the argument.

Also, look at many General officers or even Field Grade that have spoken out against private ownership. How many SEAL or Green Beret type junior officers have questioned it? Most recently, Dan Crenshaw’s view of red flag laws.

I would love to hope that those that took an oath have the proper hindsight to understand its history and nuances, however, I’ve been shown too many times that history is not well enough taught or understood.

 

[toddnjoyce]

...(Not real keen on) Bill of sale transfer without an FFL background check) ...

WTF are you talking about? There is no BOS required in Texas for private transfers, nor is a FFL needed. In fact, a seller or buyer asking for BOS in a private transfer is most likely going to torpedo the deal.

Where did you get this crazy idea that a BOS is required?

 

[Davetex]

BOS are awesome.




We're talking about Big Old Shrimp, right?

 

[easy rider]

WTF are you talking about? There is no BOS required in Texas for private transfers, nor is a FFL needed. In fact, a seller or buyer asking for BOS in a private transfer is most likely going to torpedo the deal.

Where did you get this crazy idea that a BOS is required?

Need more Whataburger employees to implement BOS laws.

 

[oldag]

Hey mods, can we set up an automatic 30 day vacation for anyone posting about BOS's?

Oops.

 

[GunnutJack]

WTF are you talking about? There is no BOS required in Texas for private transfers, nor is a FFL needed. In fact, a seller or buyer asking for BOS in a private transfer is most likely going to torpedo the deal.

Where did you get this crazy idea that a BOS is required?

Not at all...I was Saying I'm getting adjusted to lower regulations on transfers.

To keep my GOOD NAME out of possible illegal activity I prefer a bill of sale.

Pennsylvania REQUIRED both parties to go before an FFL if transferring a handgun to prevent criminals from owning concealable handguns.

Number one weapons for crime were handguns in Pennsylvania.

 

[GunnutJack]

Hey mods, can we set up an automatic 30 day vacation for anyone posting about BOS's?

Oops.

Lol......Just siting differences from a Blue state to a Red state......

When you were born into a blue state and lived there 48 years you don't realize you were oppressed.

The only thing you COULD USE here is OPEN CARRY....
JMHO

 

[toddnjoyce]

...
The only thing you COULD USE here is OPEN CARRY....
JMHO

Uh, we have that too. Constitutional carry and repeal of 30.06/30.07 is what we need.

 

[easy rider]

Just using the Constitution as written is what we need.

 

[avvidclif]

Lol......Just siting differences from a Blue state to a Red state......

When you were born into a blue state and lived there 48 years you don't realize you were oppressed.

The only thing you COULD USE here is OPEN CARRY....
JMHO

You really need to read our gun laws before commenting.

 

[Charlie]

Deleted, sigh!

 

[TxStetson]

The only thing you COULD USE here is OPEN CARRY....
JMHO

Open carry has been legal here for a few years now. Of course there was blood flowing in the streets when it first happened. It’s not uncommon in my area to see open carriers all over town.

ETA:Before anyone decides to come unglued and lose their mind, that is my sarcasm font.

 

[easy rider]

Open carry has been legal here for a few years now. Of course there was blood flowing in the streets when it first happened. It’s not uncommon in my area to see open carriers all over town.

ETA:Before anyone decides to come unglued and lose their mind, that is my sarcasm font.

YES! The word "town" triggers me!

 

[Charlie]

I see open carry quite often in town. Nobody up here blinks an eye at open carry.

 

[jordanmills]

Uh, we have that too. Constitutional carry and repeal of 30.06/30.07 is what we need.

30.06/30.07 are all but repealed by now. They don't apply to anyone who makes even a token effort at volunteering for neighborhood emergency coordination, radio comms, etc. What we need is for LTCs to have the same protections and exemptions that LEOs have.

 

[toddnjoyce]

30.06/30.07 are all but repealed by now. They don't apply to anyone who makes even a token effort at volunteering for neighborhood emergency coordination, radio comms, etc. What we need is for LTCs to have the same protections and exemptions that LEOs have.

Until repealed, they exist as tools for the prosecutor.