Valid 30.06 Sign?

[karlac]

That said, now that I know what I know what I know, I still wonder how that sign differs from a "gun buster" sign.

I know I can ignore a "gun buster" sign and, if detected and asked to leave, simply leave and have committed no crime.

I'm 50-50 whether the invalid 30.06 fits the above.

Rest assured that a statutorily invalid sign is indeed an invalid sign, period.

But, since lack of proper signage is not necessarily a guarantee against prosecution, you could well be forced to prove that it is indeed invalid on it's technical aspects, regardless of intent. The point is, why go through that expense, regardless whether the risk is low that you won't prevail?

Unfortunately, over zealous prosecutors who are willing to push the limits of the envelope, and LEO's who aren't necessarily well informed, are a dime a dozen in today's justice system.

 

[London]

Those signs are magnets for homicidal maniacs and other lesser criminals. They are also an indicator the business is being run by clueless, dangerous idiots with no respect for gun rights.

Best to avoid businesses with no guns signs whether they are valid or not.

 

[London]

Rest assured that a statutorily invalid sign is indeed an invalid sign, period.

But, since lack of proper signage is not necessarily a guarantee against prosecution, you could well be forced to prove that it is indeed invalid on it's technical aspects, regardless of intent. The point is, why go through that expense, regardless whether the risk is low that you won't prevail?

Unfortunately, over zealous prosecutors who are willing to push the limits of the envelope, and LEO's who aren't necessarily well informed, are a dime a dozen in today's justice system.

That too.

 

[Charlie]

Those signs are magnets for homicidal maniacs and other lesser criminals. They are also an indicator the business is being run by clueless, dangerous idiots with no respect for gun rights.

Best to avoid businesses with no guns signs whether they are valid or not.

And maybe, God forbid, a liberal!!!

 

[Odiferous]

Bottom line is that I'll avoid that place (Cielo Vista Regal 15) in the future.

Thanks, all!

 

[panther308]

Same here. Too close.

I damn sure wouldn't want to go to court over that!

 

[bkj]

If you are arrested a judge will decide if you ‘received effective notices‘. If the judge rules you did they will go forward with prosecution. And you can explain it to the jury.

 

[franzas]

Okay, let's assume this sign is not valid. Since Texas doesn't have OC, why would anyone know you're carrying? It ain't like you gotta go through a metal detector at a damn movie theater.

Lets say some nutjob busts into the theater and starts shooting. You shoot back. Go to court. You just saved x number of lives because you carried past their improper sign.

Personally, I'd carry. Concealed is concealed. If open carry existed, I'd leave it in the truck just to avoid being hassled/arrested over an improper sign. But that's not the case here.

$.02

 

[superchief]

if your gun gets seen or falls out, you could be charged with a class A misdemeanor. that means up to 1 year in jail and/or up to a 4000 fine. Just don't go into a place with a sign.

 

[ShelbyV8]

I saw one of those signs at a UA theater the other day. The entire sign is about the size of a sheet of printer paper. It was stuck in with a bunch of other fliers and signs. I didn't see it until I was half way through the door. I just chuckled and went on in, if they can't post a legal sign I am not going to pay any attention to it. It means about as much as a picture of a pistol with a circle slash.

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[ShelbyV8]

If your gun falls out in a movie theater, you should go to jail for a year whether they have a sign or not.

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[franzas]

If your gun falls out in a movie theater, you should go to jail for a year whether they have a sign or not.

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I laughed at that too

 

[F350-6]

Okay, let's assume this sign is not valid. Since Texas doesn't have OC, why would anyone know you're carrying? It ain't like you gotta go through a metal detector at a damn movie theater.

Lets say some nutjob busts into the theater and starts shooting. You shoot back. Go to court. You just saved x number of lives because you carried past their improper sign.

Personally, I'd carry. Concealed is concealed. If open carry existed, I'd leave it in the truck just to avoid being hassled/arrested over an improper sign. But that's not the case here.

$.02

Looking past the part about it being illegal to carry past and all, a clean shoot is a clean shoot. You're right that won't change when it comes to criminal prosecution in a justified shooting. But I don't think it will help much on the civil side of things.

It all comes down to risk and reward. Why risk breaking the law (or possibly breaking the law in some cases) when all you're really doing is rewarding a business with your money that doesn't want you to exercise your rights?

 

[Odiferous]

I'll say this: the law specifically defines "effective notice." One parameter of this is the 1" letter requirement. Less than 1" = NOT legally effective notice = no different the a "gun buster" sign.

Would I go back to this theater? Probably not.

Would I disarm myself if I saw a similar sign at a different place? Probably not.

Should the management ask me to leave the premises (for whatever reason), then I would do so expeditiously.

 

[Younggun]

I'd go somewhere else just because they made their feelings known and I wouldn't support them.


Another thought, lawyers are expensive if you have to fight the charge.

 

[Younggun]

If your gun falls out in a movie theater, you should go to jail for a year whether they have a sign or not.

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I feel the same about about people who make stupid posts.

 

[Captain]

I don't have C.H.L. Thinking about it. But either way I will not do business with a place that has a 30.06 sign.
IMO gun free zone is less than safe.

sent from the Gulf of Mexico

 

[h223]

When I go in with my 30.06, they catch it everytime. They are hard to conceal.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

When I go in with my 30.06, they catch it everytime. They are hard to conceal.

Nice post newbie 10 pts for you

 

[PhulesAu]

Nice post newbie 10 pts for you

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