Worldwide Erosion of Gun Rights

zembonez

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What we have here is a failure for the quiet masses to unass themselves from the couch
There is ton of truth here. You are quite correct. We are not, as a majority, a nation of left leaners. The left simply has more than their share of very vocal groups. The couch potato crowd would rather give them their way than have to get up and deal with them. I don't think that applies to the people joining up here... but it does apply to a large portion of the general population.

Abrasive I can take... as long as we aren't fighting and name calling amongst ourselves, let's have at it but at least keep it civil.

Simply "getting it off of your chest" won't rile me but I won't stand for unnecessary abuse of other members. Hell, we is all on the same side in here.

Glad to have you on board Peacekeeper!
 

plinker

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What we have here is a failure for the quiet masses to unass themselves from the couch, stop complaining, and getting out to voice the opinion of the nation. It is not that our country is left leaning, and left wingers are the majority. It is, in fact the opposite. The ONLY reason we are in the predicament we are in today is because we have failed ourselves and let the vocal minority walk all over us. However, there is light at the end of the tunnel folks. Let me explain...

Though the legislative branch of our nation is loosely held by the democratic party, and left is their way, pro gun/guns rights is the rule. 55 Senators, and 250 represenatives both Dem and GOP alike have pettitioned the SCOTUS to uphold the lower courts decision and kill the Washington DC firearms ban.

Do some research, and look back on as many Rasmusen, and like polls done. The vast majority of people in our Union are in fact pro gun, and are in fact tired of what has been going on in the legislative wing of our government. Osama Obama is correct. It's time for change, and the beast is coming alive.

We know how to defeat the enemy, but the only way we can do that is to get loud. Get very loud. Remember, the federal government does not rule the people here. The people rule the government.

Lt. Col. David Grossman made some fine observations in his book "On Killing" (ironic, I know) We mistakenly are told that in dangerous situations, we have the "fight or flight" response. How ever in combat, its not nessesarily fight or flight. There is fight posture sumbit or flee. One of the most useful tools to those in combat is posturing. In WWII and Korea, many battles were won by simple posturing of the Allied soldiers. In many cases there were vastly outnumbered, however they made lots of noise. Yelling, blowing up hand grenades, and completely drowning out the battle cry of the enemy. And the enemy would flee with little to no actual hostile action being made.

Our adversary in this fight is weak. The weakest people the earth has ever known. They would rather die than protect themselves, or their family. They would rather submit to, and negotiate with terrorists instead of shooting them in their ****ing faces. They are outnumbered, undergunned, and on the wrong side of the facts. We are skilled, strong, level headed people that would rather die free, and die in defense of our families then to submit to the criminals and imbecills that wish to destroy the United States as it is meant to be.

In order to make a difference, and be able to live a free, secure life, we MUST stand up and make the noise. Sound the battle cry, and not give up until the war for our rights as human beings is won. This is EXACTLY how the civil rights movement made the victory, with the help of the GOP.

Remember, its "WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", and its damn time we start acting like it.

p.s. Yes I am a bit abrasive at times, and have a foul mouth. Trust me, I am holding back. And no, I will not appologise if I have ruffled feathers. Not my style. ;)
so it looks like we agree...
 

chevydeerhunter

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There's been a demonization of guns for a long time and the media is largely to blame as well. Even though we have statistical proof on our side, they like to twist the facts. They really like using the "children killed by guns" argument. What they don't mention is that 17 year old "kids" are counted as children. The sad thing about the press is that they know they can mislead their consumers because most of them are idiots devoid of common sense. They don't know which end of a gun the round comes out, so when the press says "assault rifle", the masses cringe and join the battle cry against the evil gun.

I also think it's sad that there was a suggestion to make it illegal to try to ban guns. Not sniping anybody, but why not introduce a bill to make it illegal to try to shut down a newspaper? Because to those who oppose the private ownership of guns, freedom of the press is much more important than the right to keep and bear arms. They don't understand that our forefathers thought enough about our basic human rights that they introduced the Bill of Rights as all equally important. When push comes to shove, the only people who will defend our country will be the military and armed law-abiding citizens, not policy makers.
 

zembonez

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Americans in the military.

When push comes to shove, the only people who will defend our country will be the military and armed law-abiding citizens, not policy makers.
I'll be proud to stand next to the men in uniform... guns blazing.

I have a "son-in-law" that just got back from Iraq, and many friends and neighbors that have been or are going soon. I live 3 miles from the main gate at Randolph AFB and my neighborhood is a mix of Army, Air Force, and Marines (retired and active duty). Damn good group.

They have my ultimate respect as Americans.

I'll be back... I need to go shoot something.
 

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There is one thing I have to confess. Somehow some of this anti-gun sentiment managed to weasel it's way into my mind awhile back. Don't take that the wrong way, I've always liked firearms and have NEVER been against civilians owning them. What I am talking about is in some manner due to the direction of the media, the whole push for political correctness, etc etc I somehow became of the mindset that I was actually a bit afraid to even discuss guns with people in public settings for fear of being labeled a lunatic. This is completely the opposite of my basic rebellious nature. I realized it one evening when at a restaurant with some friends (they don't own guns but have shot guns before and are not anti-gun) and they jokingly brought up my Ak47. I instantly grew a bit embarrassed and noticed myself looking around to see if anyone was staring. It was precisely at that moment I realized I was being a complete pansy and that this was NOT the type of America our forefathers envisioned. Now, I'll discuss firearms all I want in public, and I'll feel d@mn proud doing so without blushing. I have my cojones back now. :D What strikes me as a bit shocking about this situation is somehow I managed to actually start thinking/feeling in this manner as if even talking about guns was bad in public. Whatever made me end up acting that way, whether it be the actions of the media, wave of PC sentiment across the country, or other such sociological phenomena, subtly it still somehow negatively affected myself, a very pro-gun individual. I shudder to even think how negatively these phenomena have affected those less gun friendly or less knowledgeable on the whole situation.
 

Hobie Dog

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This reminds me of when my father-in-law was still living. Being a farmer, he went to bed very early. Just before bed time I would bring up politics (Reagan era). He would get so upset he couldn't sleep. No arguments. We agreed on everything. I just found it entertaining. I guess I'm just a mean spirited Republican.

My latest reading, that my daughter just sent me: (where does she learn to do this?)
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Top Psychiatrist Concludes Liberals are Clinically Nuts
Eminent psychiatrist makes case ideology is mental disorder
Posted: February 15, 2008
WorldNetDaily



WASHINGTON: Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder. "Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave." While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."
For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago. Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by the two major candidates for the Democratic Party presidential nomination can only be understood as a psychological disorder.
"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state“ as liberals do." Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
  • creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
  • satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
  • augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
  • rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.
"The roots of liberalism and its associated madness can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."
 

ReVrEnD_0341

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There is ton of truth here. You are quite correct. We are not, as a majority, a nation of left leaners. The left simply has more than their share of very vocal groups. The couch potato crowd would rather give them their way than have to get up and deal with them. I don't think that applies to the people joining up here... but it does apply to a large portion of the general population.

Abrasive I can take... as long as we aren't fighting and name calling amongst ourselves, let's have at it but at least keep it civil.

Simply "getting it off of your chest" won't rile me but I won't stand for unnecessary abuse of other members. Hell, we is all on the same side in here.

Glad to have you on board Peacekeeper!
Oh no, I wasn't try to abuse other members or resort to any name calling. Think of me jumping around on a stage, and yelling like Barak Obama while saying all that. I assure you it would be very motivational, and probably quite amusing. :)

HK. That is called conditioning. Think Pavlov's dog, and B.F. Skinner's rats. Its basic. You see it, hear it, experience it enough, you get conditioned. Operant conditioning to be exact I believe. You are given a stimulous enough, and your reaction to that stimulous eventually becomes what the conditioner wants. Parallels can also be drawn to that of the way the military conditions it members to kill and move on without hesitation.
 

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Hobie Dog, thank you very much for the link to that book! I'm ordering a copy. I have long thought of writing a book on the same subject and am very pleased someone with credentials has already done so. Liberalism seems to be the one big single "problem" affecting nearly every facet of our society negatively. Doctor Rossiter's diagnosis of liberals as mentally defect individuals made a light bulb turn on in my mind, and now it makes complete sense (just from reading the description and excerpts from that book) why liberals sometimes appear so nonsensical, without logic, oblivious to the truth right in front of their eyes, etc etc. Geez, these guys are just as bad as Scientologists if not worse! ;)
 

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