Obama appointed judge has found 18 USC Sec. 922(g)(5) uconstitutional. This Federal law, prohibits possession of firearms by undocumented aliens.

[MountainGirl]

Gun control laws from the very beginning have always been about the political elite keeping weapons out of the hands of whom they deem unworthy.
The Japanese tried it centuries ago banning firearms so regular Joe's couldn't smoke a samurai from a distance. They made all the noise about honor and stuff but it was really about power and money. It took a long time and money to train a Samurai. Then he would typically become a paid thug for some warlord who would use the guy to extort people. It just not would do to have some peasant be able to wreck them thugs.
The English freaked about it when all those pissed off Irishmen came back from the Great War.
Here in the U.S. it was about keeping Blacks from having them.
The British wanted to confiscate some things that morning on Lexington green.

Kinda hypocritical of us to tell other people you have no right to defend yourself, family, or property.
From my cold dead hands is just so much bullshit then?

Am I comfortable with it? No, not really. The catch is if "they" can be banned from the 2A then how long before "we" are? See first sentence.

This.

 

[jimbo]

What could possibly be the downside to arming the new illegal population that has been foisted on the US?

The constitution does not apply to illegal immigrants! How could it be a violation to ban weapons from them?

 

[Army 1911]

By definition Illegal aliens, insurgents or whatever feel good moniker you apply to them, are still engaging in illegal activity and should not have 2nd Amendment rights.

 

[jimbo]

By definition Illegal aliens, insurgents or whatever feel good moniker you apply to them, are still engaging in illegal activity and should not have 2nd Amendment rights.

Absolutely! And they should not be allowed to enter this country except through legal means. Looks like our govt is not only bringing in illegals but arming them too.

 

[baboon]

Giving illegals weapons-- even those MS-13 bangers that came through the borders...what a cluster.

I'd be more worried when the cartels start running true weapons of war north of the border.

 

[Lead Belly]

At this stage, it appears the only purpose of borders is to control trade, not stem the flow of immigrants.

I full-heartedly agree- every person is entitled to protect their own family. Immigrants should not be prohibited from owning baseball bats or golf clubs.

 

[alternative]

They are felons by definition if I understand the law. They are not undocumented immigrants, they are future democratic voters, welcome to chaos.

 

[Younggun]

By definition Illegal aliens, insurgents or whatever feel good moniker you apply to them, are still engaging in illegal activity and should not have 2nd Amendment rights.

Careful, who knows what illegal activity you might be accused of. Or what activities may be deemed illegal in the future.

The real issue is that illegal immigrants aren’t being immediately deported.

 

[Younggun]

They are felons by definition if I understand the law. They are not undocumented immigrants, they are future democratic voters, welcome to chaos.

From what I’ve found it’s a misdemeanor for first offense.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Second Amendment Right to Bear Arms
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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This kind of ruling why we have the 2a

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[Johnny Diamond]

By what real and true standard of the law should someone who has not and does not follow a nation's laws be given the ultimate lawful right of its natural born CITIZENS that requires even ex (or) active duty military or Leo's to apply with drivers license and a background check to verify whether or not you are legally not an unauthorized person, how in hell have we slipped to the point were the fed says any and all come and come fast and here is everything you never dreamed of having, at everyone else's expense?
Jeez!

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[Renegade]

Correct Decision.

They are people, and the Right Of The People To Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed.

It is also in line with the Bruen decision.

 

[Renegade]

"Undocumented alien", by definition, means no paperwork. No DL.

Have you ever gone in to your LGS and tried to make a firearm purchase without a DL?

The Case you are making is that Gun Control laws are Unconstitutional and I agree. Hopefully the judge will strike that shit down too.

 

[Renegade]

They are felons by definition if I understand the law. They are not undocumented immigrants, they are future democratic voters, welcome to chaos.

99% of the people coming in now are asylum seekers, and are here legally awaiting their hearing.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

99% of the people coming in now are asylum seekers, and are here legally awaiting their hearing.

Law is a funny thing isn't it. With the right amount of money or the right connections, or the authority to make and enforce any law with discretion....anything can be accomplished.

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[Big Dipper]

Although they are certainly ”accused” of being here illegally, they are not felons (in regards to that law) until they are convicted of the crime.

Remember, the 5th amendment and “due process”.

The same goes for DJT being accused of insurrection by Dems and MSM. No trial, no conviction, ergo innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Renegade]

They are not undocumented immigrants, they are future democratic voters, welcome to chaos.

While many might think that, history sees it another way.

Dems controlled Congress for most of the past century, Republicans only gaining the House and control of Congress in the 90s.

While Cause/Effect cannot be proven, since illegal immigration became common in late 70s. Dems are winning less.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

Excuse me but why were they initially, and by most of us referred to as illegal? And I was always under the impression that entering our nation illegally was a felony?

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[Moonpie]

The entire argument is kind of moot.
Illegals hold jobs, drive cars on the roads, and already have firearms.
No one is going to stop them.

 

[MountainGirl]

Excuse me but why were they initially, and by most of us referred to as illegal? ...
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The illegals are the ones entering illegally - between the ports of entry. Some seek a CBP officer quickly to 'legal up' via requesting asylum, others do not and remain as illegals.

Kinda recall them receiving an app on their phones, or a .gov site to go to, during their journey north to start the 'asylum request' process... to make it easier on CPB.