Legalized Pot

[jordanmills]

I am glad that I work in an industry that does not allow the use or abuse of any substance. We are regularly random tested. Some jobs are dangerous enough without adding substances that impair your judgment. Making any substance that screws up your ability to function safely socially acceptable is just lame. I understand and agree with the use of any substance for medical reasons. But recreational use of those substances is juvenile and just dumb. Yes I drink alcohol. But as a friend of mines father told me in my 20's "I don't play with my post toasties, why would I play with my beverages"

So the rules you claim to choose for yourself should apply to everyone. Except you don't actually follow those rules. This is a winner of a post right here.

 

[Logarius]

Only when they impact the safety of the individual or those that surround them. I will not argue the ethics or morality of my position, only the infringement on the safety of myself and those who I love. BTW nice to meet you Jordan. I am not a troll stirring up poo, just trying to live in a world where people make choices that impact others without consideration for them.

 

[TXARGUY]

The war on drugs has only enriched the cartels and corrupted officials and turned the police into a para military force.. It is working as well as prohibition.

And it will soon end. And years from now kids will study it in their textbooks much the same as we studied Prohibition.

God willing.

I don't have a dog in the fight because I don't have much of an opinion one way or the other (and we all know what opinions are like) but I do see the (possibly unintended) real and dangerous repercussions the "war on drugs" has created. I'm not blind to the fact that a teenager in Texas is currently facing a life sentence over pot brownies. I'm not blind to the fact that our prison system is completely over-flowing with guys on "possession" charges. Prisons that are ill-managed, staffed by highly underpaid uneducated lackey enforcers (no disrespect to glock dude or Roger, you guys are the 1%), and corrupt to the point that gang members are intentionally placed in near opposing gang members in the hopes a fight happens or better yet a shanking because then we have more charges to put against them both, I'm not blind to the fact that "otherwise normal" guys are sitting in that same prison system right now because they got caught with a plant. I'm not blind the fact that massive, well armed, well trained, well funded (via the "war on drugs"), brutal cartels that have taken Mexico by force are amassed right on our border and infiltrating our society at this very moment, I'm not blind to the fact that "other" drugs have become prevalent and a scourge (Crack cocaine has completely devastated certain segments of society, Meth destroys entire communities) as a result of the war on drugs. I'm not blind to the fact that the "war on drugs" has been a massive, back-firing failure on such a scale that our children's children and generations to come still feel the repercussions.

The mold has been cast. What has been done has been done.

At this point whether pot is legalized or not is irrelevant. The cartels and our government have moved on into other ventures.

I have my own personal way of relaxing; sitting out on the deck, enjoying a couple of shots of Forty Creek, cigar in hand, arguing with you fools on the Internet.

If someone else's way of relaxing is sitting on the couch staring at, but not watching, TV thinking about how badass the bassist is on the CD they're playing when there is no CD playing, remembering some random thing that they're supposed to do then promptly forgetting it, developing the munchies and eating a shitload of carb filled crap, developing paranoia, can't figure out why it's only 8 in the evening because they swear it must really be midnight, imagining a way to invent something that's totally awesome and get rich then thinking about what they'd do with the money if they were rich and famous then promptly forgetting it, then realizing there is really no CD playing and that they zoned out for a while, wondering why it's so bright all the sudden and developing the munchies again, cramming more carbs in their face, actually playing the CD at full volume at 3:00AM while their roommate who has a big exam he's worried about coming in -3 hours is trying to sleep because they thought it was midnight when it was 8 so it must be 9 when it's 3, passing out on the floor and being a mentally clouded dumbass the next day then more power to them.

Who am I to judge?

 

[Younggun]

Pretty sure the guy in ^^that^^ scenario would be a loser with or without the pot, lol.

Only when they impact the safety of the individual or those that surround them. I will not argue the ethics or morality of my position, only the infringement on the safety of myself and those who I love. BTW nice to meet you Jordan. I am not a troll stirring up poo, just trying to live in a world where people make choices that impact others without consideration for them.

Luckily, legalizing a drug doesn't mean a company has to stop drug testing or allow you or anyone else to work under the influence if anything.


Alcohol is legal, can you go to work drunk?

Smoking is perfectly legal, but that doesn't mean I can smoke in the company vehicle.


Heck, lots of prescription drugs you can legally take at the prescribed dosage that will stop you from being able to work. Just cause something is legal, doesn't mean a company has to tolerate it or allow it's employees to do it.

 

[TXARGUY]

Pretty sure the guy in ^^that^^ scenario would be a loser with or without the pot, lol.

That came from personal and up close observation. That was my roommate sophomore year of college. He was on a golf scholarship.

Last time I saw him was several years ago when I was looking at cars. He was the "salesman" and speeding so hard he was almost incomprehensible.

Needless to say he didn't get the sale.

 

[Younggun]

That came from personal and up close observation. That was my roommate sophomore year of college. He was on a golf scholarship.

Last time I saw him was several years ago when I was looking at cars. He was the "salesman" and speeding so hard he was almost incomprehensible.

Needless to say he didn't get the sale.

I figured it was, considering the detail of it. Still, I've noticed most people who are THAT worthless with pot, are pretty much just as worthless without it.

 

[Jakashh]

You sure pot was the only thing he was on lol?

 

[Sapper740]

Texas Sheriffs say "NO" to legalizing marijuana....as in ALL Texas Sheriffs. Read the report here: http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/scan0002.pdf

 

[Younggun]

Lol.


So.


I didn't read, cause I don't really care or see how it's relevant.

 

[itchin]

Of course pot arrests fill their quotas to receive govt funding to buy mraps and machine guns.

 

[Younggun]

This just in!!!

100% of pot smokers in Texas are criminals! Irrefutable proof that people who smoke pot are bad and why pot should remain illegal. Do YOU want a CRIMINAL next door????

 

[Younggun]

Of course pot arrests fill their quotas to receive govt funding to buy mraps and machine guns.

+money from drug busts.

 

[Sapper740]

Lol.


So.


I didn't read, cause I don't really care or see how it's relevant.

It's called, "Trying to understand everyone's point of view so one can make an educated decision."

 

[Younggun]

It's called, "Trying to understand everyone's point of view so one can make an educated decision."

It's a pretty easy point if view to understand when the amount if money you get is directly related to the number of "criminals" you catch. The more "need" there is to have then stopping these "criminals", the more justification they will have for asking for more money.

MRAP oil changes don't pay for themselves.

 

[benenglish]

MRAP oil changes don't pay for themselves.

Neither (speaking nationally) do privately owned prisons run by giant corps that get contracts in exchange for political support to officeholders. We must have more criminals to fill those prisons or the investments of the politically connected don't produce a profit...and we can't allow that, can we?

When you have the percentage of your population under lockdown that we do, compared to the rest of the world, then, in general, can we agree that too much stuff in this country is illegal, already, even if just as a general principle?

 

[Sapper740]

It's a pretty easy point if view to understand when the amount if money you get is directly related to the number of "criminals" you catch. The more "need" there is to have then stopping these "criminals", the more justification they will have for asking for more money.

MRAP oil changes don't pay for themselves.

Yes, of course, it's all about "funding" isn't it? So by your logic we can assume that the Texas Sherrifs' Association is for criminalizing alcohol too then.....**** the MRAPs, let's get us some Abrams!

There are costs related to drug abuse which are borne by the tax payer since it seems not all druggies are Libertarians and will use their drug of choice in an adult, responsible manner. I watched an episode of Drugs Inc on NatGeo the other night about the problems in Portland OR caused by drug use. The story centered around two Heroin addicts who began their career as druggies with marijuana trying to get into a Drug Rehab program which was full to overflowing despite spending $51,000,000.00 annually. Both the junkies complained about the lack of slots in the program. They're obviously not Libertarians because Libertarians would happliy pay for their own drug rehab and not be a burden to the tax payer, right? So until all druggies are confirmed Libertarians and no longer reaching into my pocket as a taxpayer I believe we need to control the use of drugs in this country.

 

[Younggun]

Yes, of course, it's all about "funding" isn't it? So by your logic we can assume that the Texas Sherrifs' Association is for criminalizing alcohol too then.....**** the MRAPs, let's get us some Abrams!

There are costs related to drug abuse which are borne by the tax payer since it seems not all druggies are Libertarians and will use their drug of choice in an adult, responsible manner. I watched an episode of Drugs Inc on NatGeo the other night about the problems in Portland OR caused by drug use. The story centered around two Heroin addicts who began their career as druggies with marijuana trying to get into a Drug Rehab program which was full to overflowing despite spending $51,000,000.00 annually. Both the junkies complained about the lack of slots in the program. They're obviously not Libertarians because Libertarians would happliy pay for their own drug rehab and not be a burden to the tax payer, right? So until all druggies are confirmed Libertarians and no longer reaching into my pocket as a taxpayer I believe we need to control the use of drugs in this country.

Are you sure they didn't start with cigarettes?

Or beer?

Pot didn't make then smoke meth. That's just silly.

 

[TXARGUY]

This just in!!!

100% of pot smokers in Texas are criminals! Irrefutable proof that people who smoke pot are bad and why pot should remain illegal. Do YOU want a CRIMINAL next door????

Oh my that is scary. We should build more prisons to protect us from this midnight munchee driven scourge of criminality!

 

[Younggun]

 

[TXARGUY]

I just heard that the entirety of the human race has been chemical dependent since the beginning of time. Some exotic mixture of oxygen, nitrogen, argon and a whole host of other "household" chemicals that is all the rave these days.

At some point it has even spread to the animals and some dumbass fish that because of the addiction have forgotten entirely how to properly be a fish.

It's completely out of control and to this day not a single media report has mentioned it and no one to my knowledge is doing anything to stop it.

We are doomed.