FTF gun sale tards

[Shady]

And I guess if you get a LTC that makes you a simi cop and you should intervene in all situations cuz you gots a gun.

As long as you don't know they are not supposed to buy a gun and you ask if they are allowed to buy you have done your due diligence.

It would bother me as much if i sold a car to someone and he killed someone while drunk driving with it or a motorcycle and they end up a quadriplegic.

It would be the same as thinking you need to do more than lock your house or car when you have a gun in it.

Its not my job to save the world.

Saw this on Texas Gun Trader...

Title: Something WE need to work on.....

I see ads like this and they make me cringe. Excerpt of this is "I do not want or need to collect and store any one's personal information. Be old enough to own a gun in Texas." What this tells me is the seller is only concerned with getting the money for his gun, and not whether the buyer is qualified in the least (well, he does require that they be old enough to own a gun). Bad idea on many fronts:

1. This just invites people who can't pass a background check to buy from this guy, or others like him. Just had a guy try to buy a Hi-Point carbine from me. My instincts told me NO, and I told him there was another Hi-point in Houston. The guy actually asked me to contact the other seller for the Houston seller's phone # since this guy didn't have a TGT account and didn't want to get one, presumably to leave no trail of any kind. Uhh, no thanks, not even for 3x the price. I let my local gun store sell it for 10%.

2. CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA,!
COVER YOUR A$$ This should be evident, but let's spell it out. Do you really want to be the guy who sold the gun to someone who kills an innocent person? All because you did not practice reasonable diligence in selling your firearm? Yeah, we can't predict or be held responsible for what someone else does with that gun you sold If you did your due diligence. If your gut tells you not to sell your gun to someone THEN DON'T! At least have a Bill of Sale with a statement that the buyer can legally purchase and a TXDL. You don't need their address ( and they don't need yours). Have your names and TXDL#, better yet a CHL/LTC #. if it's ever an issue, law enforcement will have the rest.

3. Practicing due diligence helps to protect us from new laws and regulations concerning our hobby. 100,000 problems free gun sales will quickly be overshadowed by the one that went bad. We don't need this. YOU don't need this. More so, the innocent who may be robbed, hurt, or killed needs it even less. We are better than making no questions asked sales. If you're uncomfortable, sell it on 10% consignment at your local store and help keep him and her in business!

Imapapallama

 

[ZX9RCAM]

And I guess if you get a LTC that makes you a simi cop and you should intervene in all situations cuz you gots a gun.

As long as you don't know they are not supposed to buy a gun and you ask if they are allowed to buy you have done your due diligence.

It would bother me as much if i sold a car to someone and he killed someone while drunk driving with it or a motorcycle and they end up a quadraphonic.

It would be the same as thinking you need to do more than lock your house or car when you have a gun in it.

Its not my job to save the world.

Damn, I would hate for that to happen to somebody.

 

[Shady]

glad I use spell check it saves me from mistakes

Damn, I would hate for that to happen to somebody.

 

[motorcarman]

It would bother me as much if i sold a car to someone and he killed someone while drunk driving with it or a motorcycle and they end up a quadraphonic.

I have that album (The WHO Quadrophenia (1973)) The story follows a young mod named Jimmy and his search for self-worth and importance, set in London and Brighton in 1965.

The lad had a MOTOR SCOOTER though.

bob

 

[Hoji]

Saw this on Texas Gun Trader...

Title: Something WE need to work on.....

I see ads like this and they make me cringe. Excerpt of this is "I do not want or need to collect and store any one's personal information. Be old enough to own a gun in Texas." What this tells me is the seller is only concerned with getting the money for his gun, and not whether the buyer is qualified in the least (well, he does require that they be old enough to own a gun). Bad idea on many fronts:

1. This just invites people who can't pass a background check to buy from this guy, or others like him. Just had a guy try to buy a Hi-Point carbine from me. My instincts told me NO, and I told him there was another Hi-point in Houston. The guy actually asked me to contact the other seller for the Houston seller's phone # since this guy didn't have a TGT account and didn't want to get one, presumably to leave no trail of any kind. Uhh, no thanks, not even for 3x the price. I let my local gun store sell it for 10%.

2. CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA, CYA,!
COVER YOUR A$$ This should be evident, but let's spell it out. Do you really want to be the guy who sold the gun to someone who kills an innocent person? All because you did not practice reasonable diligence in selling your firearm? Yeah, we can't predict or be held responsible for what someone else does with that gun you sold If you did your due diligence. If your gut tells you not to sell your gun to someone THEN DON'T! At least have a Bill of Sale with a statement that the buyer can legally purchase and a TXDL. You don't need their address ( and they don't need yours). Have your names and TXDL#, better yet a CHL/LTC #. if it's ever an issue, law enforcement will have the rest.

3. Practicing due diligence helps to protect us from new laws and regulations concerning our hobby. 100,000 problems free gun sales will quickly be overshadowed by the one that went bad. We don't need this. YOU don't need this. More so, the innocent who may be robbed, hurt, or killed needs it even less. We are better than making no questions asked sales. If you're uncomfortable, sell it on 10% consignment at your local store and help keep him and her in business!

Imapapallama

Is Sunday the start of a new week? I think it is. I would hate to admit being wrong twice in one week. I will withhold commenting on this post until later in the week.

 

[BRD@66]

glad I use spell check it saves me from mistakes

Me two.

 

[Coiled]

Saw this on Texas Gun Trader...

Title: Something WE need to work on.....

... SNIP ...

Imapapallama

Not sure I follow this link http://www.depression.pw/msg211275.html but maybe Imapapallama shouldn't (can't?) legally own firearms.

 

[mpolk]

I am an FFL and when I sell or trade my personal guns, it is always going to have a bill of sale attached. I am definitely going to CMA. The form I use has minimal information on it, but if you don't want to sign a bill of sale, then I'll keep the gun. It's that simple. If someone won't sign a bill of sale, it's pretty much a flag that says they might no be able to buy one legally anyway. Enough said, LOL

 

[Charlie]

No problem. Each to his own.

 

[GUNNER51]

Dear sirs and madams,

In my experience if they are hesitant to provide me a copy of their driver's license, then they probably can NOT own a gun and are looking to purchase one through the background check loophole! I have never hesitated to provide my information. On the very rare occasion that I do sell a firearm, I do require a bill of sale for my records.

Many businesses require a driver's license to process a refund. I do not see the difference, whether you give that information to the other party in a gun sale or to a business!

Thanks kindly,
GUNNER51

 

[Younggun]

Dear sirs and madams,

In my experience if they are hesitant to provide me a copy of their driver's license, then they probably can NOT own a gun and are looking to purchase one through the background check loophole! I have never hesitated to provide my information. On the very rare occasion that I do sell a firearm, I do require a bill of sale for my records.

Many businesses require a driver's license to process a refund. I do not see the difference, whether you give that information to the other party in a gun sale or to a business!

Thanks kindly,
GUNNER51

So I assume you wouldn't mind posting a photo of your drivers license on here for us to see.


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[Maverick44]

What the hell is a gun show loophole? Last time I checked, there was no such thing.

 

[Dawico]

I am an FFL and when I sell or trade my personal guns, it is always going to have a bill of sale attached. I am definitely going to CMA. The form I use has minimal information on it, but if you don't want to sign a bill of sale, then I'll keep the gun. It's that simple. If someone won't sign a bill of sale, it's pretty much a flag that says they might no be able to buy one legally anyway. Enough said, LOL

Dear sirs and madams,

In my experience if they are hesitant to provide me a copy of their driver's license, then they probably can NOT own a gun and are looking to purchase one through the background check loophole! I have never hesitated to provide my information. On the very rare occasion that I do sell a firearm, I do require a bill of sale for my records.

Many businesses require a driver's license to process a refund. I do not see the difference, whether you give that information to the other party in a gun sale or to a business!

Thanks kindly,
GUNNER51

So any buyer that refuses to jump through your self imposed registration must be a criminal?

Good to know.

 

[Younggun]

I'm not a criminal. Scofflaw maybe...


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[Younggun]

What the hell is a gun show loophole? Last time I checked, there was no such thing.

He's talking about the background check loophole. Totally different...or something.


Just need a copy of your DL, SS card, and bank statement.


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[GUNNER51]

What the hell is a gun show loophole? Last time I checked, there was no such thing.

Maverick44,

That is when someone who can not legally obtain a firearm because they will not pass a background check, goes to a gun show to buy a gun because they do not require background checks. It is an easy way for CRIMINALS to get their hands on a gun.

Thanks kindly,
GUNNER51

 

[Coiled]

 

[Renegade]

Do you really want to be the guy who sold the gun to someone who kills an innocent person?

At least have a Bill of Sale with a statement that the buyer can legally purchase and a TXDL.

How does this prevent the gun from being used in a homicide?

 

[Renegade]

That is when someone who can not legally obtain a firearm because they will not pass a background check, goes to a gun show to buy a gun because they do not require background checks. It is an easy way for CRIMINALS to get their hands on a gun.

Uh, if you cannot pass a background check at my store, you will not pass it at a gun show either. You are completely misinformed if you think I only have to do background checks at my store and not at a gun show.

 

[Younggun]

Uh, if you cannot pass a background check at my store, you will not pass it at a gun show either. You are completely misinformed if you think I only have to do background checks at my store and not at a gun show.

Well, that's what the media has been telling people for the last 8 years. No surprise people are misinformed.


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