That would explain the lack of editing.I read an article that said he was YT live with the encounter.
That would explain the lack of editing.I read an article that said he was YT live with the encounter.
My personal problem is their need to attempt any sort of dialogue with the police. Show up, film the entire encounter and remain silent, minus any legally required answers (if any) to LEs questions. Anything beyond that is counter productive.
If you have video evidence of what actually happened that certainly could either work for you or work against you in court.If one resists at all, could that be construed as assault?
Olmos Park city council voted to repeal its open carry ordinance Thursday following the arrest of Open Carry Texas founder CJ Grisham.
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The city council gave a unanimous vote to repeal the ordinance. All members refused to give further comment, including Mayor Ronald Hornberger.
http://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/olmos-park-city-council-repeals-open-carry-ordinance
Now the police can no longer harass people with the excuse that they are checking for violations of city ordinances. We will have to see if that PD changes their ways, or if they just use different excuses to maintain the status quo.
Sec. 21-16. - Carrying loaded rifle or shotgun.
It shall be unlawful for any person, other than duly authorized peace officers, to carry a loaded rifle or shotgun on any public street within the city or in a motor vehicle while the same is being operated on any public street within the city.
(Code 1959, § 26-28)
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So, why isn't OCT and Grisham doing the same in San Antonio for having the same ordinance?
/this\ Any colloquy they (the OCers) have "trying to teach the officers a 'lesson' or 'the law'" makes it more likely than less that a judge will interpret this as an interference with lawful authority. Just OC, walk about, wait for the police, follow their instructions silently, and let the TRVTH prevail when the video shows that no law was violated by the OCers. Of course, it's impossible for the OCers to know whether someone has called 911 and made a "person with a gun" complaint, which the police are obligated to check out. Just comply, comply, comply and let the courts see the silent compliance, which will be completely obvious on the video that you present.My personal problem is their need to attempt any sort of dialogue with the police. Show up, film the entire encounter and remain silent, minus any legally required answers (if any) to LEs questions. Anything beyond that is counter productive.
Did he get arrested?
Has he filed a lawsuit to get this ordinance overturned / deemed unconstitutional?
If not, then its just starting shit, and making the rest of us look bad.
EXACTLY. :cheers:As I have mentioned before, myself and another member of this forum were the subject of a "concerned citizen" who called the police alleging "someone was shooting at a billboard at a Valero station" (according the officer who responded) while in fact what was going on was my buying a .22 rifle and checking out the scope by safely pointing it up into the air.
What transpired was a SAPD patrol car rolled up on us and the officer asked us a few questions. We politely answered, and offered to provide ID and/or the rifle to be inspected to prove it hadn't been fired. He declined and explained why he had to investigate. We clearly understood and cooperated the best we could. The entire encounter was over over with in a matter of minutes, and we freely went on our separate ways.
The obvious point is such situations can be quickly and easily resolved with both parties being respectful and cooperative with each other. I sincerely believe that is the case in the vast majority of instances, but OCT and Grisham go "above and beyond" to force the situation into a worst case scenario in attempts to forward their cause. What they end up doing is giving us all a bad name. Grisham is a narcissistic moron who doesn't let common sense get in the way of his actions. There are far more productive ways to improve police-gun owner relations, but he feels his confrontations are going to have a positive outcome in our favor. It just doesn't work that way, in fact his actions will ultimately result in all of us potentially being treated more harshly.
The sooner Grisham and OCT go away, the better...
The chick in pink top in that pic has some serious cans. :doh:Here is their "action" on that topic...
https://www.change.org/p/san-antoni...ce-sec-21-16-carrying-loaded-rifle-or-shotgun
10 whole supporters. Maybe they should take note of that...