Hell of a trade...
Yeah, he did pretty good. I only wanted to trade 12 rolls.
But I knew I could flip that 10K rounds of 9mm for a whole lot more value
Hell of a trade...
It is not ficticious if those folks actually exist, and I know they do. I am one of them. The difference is you cannot see my supply or how I obtained it, how much I paid, on the internet.
If the going price is $5/roll, it is not inflated as that is the price I will pay to replace my supply.
If people just simply bought 1x extra every 10th time they go to the store instead of buying a pack of smokes, sixer of beer, candy bar, etc, then there would not be any shortages and the neckbeards would be stuck with it. They do that one time and have to wipe through 6,000 rolls of shit tickets and they will stopThink you kind of missed my point, my comments were directed at the strawman and not you personally. I disagree with your position and we're debating it, I don't even know you, you might be a nice guy with some weird opinions on how you treat your fellow man.
In the post below you reference trading TP for ammo, I see nothing wrong with that. That said I think buying up all the TP within 50 miles then charging an insane price for it is fundamentally wrong. Maybe where we disagree is in what constitutes an 'insane price' or maybe its perspective on a captive market. I don't know but that's why people have discussions.
I don't agree creating a shortage in order to capitalize on that shortage in a difficult environment is acceptable behaviour. If you have excess stock and you choose to sell it at a higher than normal price I see nothing wrong with that, supply and demand.
Well, on that note;
We probably have enough tp to last about a year if we don’t buy another roll. This comes from my wife’s parents growing up in the Great Depression and when ever she goes to shopping, she buys a few extra of everything. That contributes as much to creating the shortage as anything else.
I buy most of my ammo online and in bulk, but when I see it on the shelf at a comparable price to online, I have no issue clearing that shelf. Granted, I shoot more than 99.9% of the gun owning populace, but do you think that contributes to “shortages”? What if I decided, after seeing a mass of people who do not take adequate steps to stock up, paying .25 a round for crap .22lr and I decided to sell a few thousand rounds at that price? Am I a gouger?
Think the folks selling tp for $5 a roll in the parking lot are trash, just like the rascal driving dickheads in line with their entire inbred family at Walmart are trash when they were buying all the ammo to flip, but I do not think they are doing anything illegal.
Think you kind of missed my point, my comments were directed at the strawman and not you personally.
That said I think buying up all the TP within 50 miles then charging an insane price for it is fundamentally wrong.
Maybe where we disagree is in what constitutes an 'insane price' or maybe its perspective on a captive market. I don't know but that's why people have discussions.
I don't agree creating a shortage in order to capitalize on that shortage in a difficult environment is acceptable behaviour.
There is a difference between immoral and illegal. One gets you arrested, the other makes people despise you.
Every one who has commented on one side or the other:
Who is responsible for not having enough ______ in their home in case of an emergency ?
Profit being the keyword.
Before you decide someone is gouging, you need to know the cost for them to acquire the item.
But if you drop it, it explodes into TP dust.Cottonelle only, it's like cashmere man.......
He was strong armed by having a gun pointed to his head to surrender legally purchased products.Gouging has pretty much been identified by the gubment, and the general populace. It has nothing to do with what the items cost to obtain.
Here's an example.
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And it was dealt with. He agreed to "donate" them after his sales of the stuff was taken / shutdown.
He was strong armed by having a gun pointed to his head to surrender legally purchased products.
He was stupid enough to publicly bitch about his situation instead of going to an alternative selling method.He was strong armed by having a gun pointed to his head to surrender legally purchased products.
strawman
It was not an "an intentionally misrepresented proposition" as it really exists, I did not take it personally, I used my personal example to show I am one of these prepper types.
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an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument
You have no evidence this is what happened. The example was the guy had some rolls in a truck, that is nowhere near all the TP in 50 miles.
Where we disagree is I think the buyer & seller set the price, you think the govt should.
I do not see how a guy with some rolls of TP created a shortage. The is not like the Hunt brothers trying to corner the silver market.
Every thing he bought/ sold was before the declared state of emergency.Due to gouging laws.
Every thing he bought/ sold was before the declared state of emergency.
Anyone wanna trade some 9mm for 12 gage buck shot?
My primary for the home is a 12 gage. They throw out thor's hammer blows as long as you can feed them.
Gouging has pretty much been identified by the gubment, and the general populace. It has nothing to do with what the items cost to obtain.