Round in the chamber?

[Gilbertc13]

It's not about scary waters in the sense of fear, it's more about trying to learn from experience of others and apply what I find as best practices. I'm a navy veteran (non US), I saw my share of war, although I'm new to small caliber pistols I'm well trained with assault rifles and weapons in general. I was trained to carry unloaded guns, as a commander I trained others as well, I know how hefty the price is when human error occurs.

That being said, I dont treat my background as holy or any kind of ultimate source of truth, that's why I engaged here to learn from others. I love Texas, everyone I met here were always more polite and warm than people from previous places I've been to, that's why I took the liberty to ask for y'all opinions. Had I known this will become such a s***storm I wouldn't waste my time, or yours for that matter.

There were a couple of good arguments here and I'll adjust my routine for some scenarios. I apologize to those who got riled up did to the subject, I had no idea it's such an explosive issue.

What I said earlier stands. Would you not wear a seatbelt and plan for time to allow for buckling up. Now would you allow yourself to chamber a round when shit hits the fan? Personally I wear a seatbelt, just like I carry with a round in the chamber. To each their own. When I first started carrying appendix I couldn’t bring myself to have a round chambered with the gun in my holster pointing at my femoral artery and my sausage. Trust your gear, with time, you’ll be more and more comfortable and carry with one in the chamber if you don’t decide to right away. Welcome to LTC life. It’s a big responsibility. You are your own first responder, no one is quicker to respond than you are. Have respect for the gun and the lifestyle.


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[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

What country is (non US)?

(non proud of your country?)

Frankly, I don't believe a word of the bs you're slinging, but obviously you're having fun........and people (me in this instance) are playing, so sling away with gusto!

Provide more fiction please!

It's moderately entertaining in these dark times........

 

[EZ-E]

As long as you keep it holstered its not going off. With practice of holster draw with snap caps your muscle memory will get better & you should be able to maintain trigger finger control until the pistol has cleared the holster completely & you bring it into position to fire.

If you have a striker fire with trigger job you really want to practice trigger control. They can be touchy when they are finger f@cked.

Double actions you have a longer trigger pull & usually 8lbs or so. Not as touchy on the trigger like some striker fire.

Single action 1911 style you have to drop the safety & the trigger is a lot shorter pull.

Youll have different operations to fire depending on what pistol you carry, but all comes down to keeping your booger hook off the bang switch until you are ready to fire.

Personally i carry a CZP07 sa/da loaded with decocker to drop the hammer before it is holstered. The wife carries a Sig p938, loaded, hammer back & safety on. Different strokes for different folks. Also holstering a pistol with the holster on is not something i ever recommend. Always holster the pistol then put it on your belt. Its easy to bump the trigger going in especially with a striker fire. Or get a piece of shirt caught in the trigger guard & holster.

 

[Charlie]

'Hope OP hangs around. I think he'll fit right in once he gets familiar with us.

ETA: We love "shitstorms"!

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Charlie,

Good one!

I'm laughing so hard I think I hurt myself!!

 

[Whistler]

I think part of it had to do with the way it was worded, that one was more likely (higher probability) of a mistake or accidental discharge harming self, guest or loved one carrying with a round chambered. OP implied preference to unloaded, high probability of 'damage' otherwise.

That's reminiscent of a common anti-gun talking point many on this forum are sensitive to. Especially considering people often join this forum specifically to ridicule pro 2A positions.

Personally I find the discussion disingenuous because its obviously impractical and counter intuitive to the point of concealed carry but was expressed as the preference. That being the case why ask?

Forgive my bluntness but asking a question you've already answered is certain to elicit the type of responses received. Continuing to assert that position despite overwhelming responses to the contrary is unlikely to result in open dialog.

 

[Charlie]

Yeah! We'll argue about anything and if it's not controversial, some will change their stance just to mean and start some chit!

 

[Coiled]

What country is (non US)?

(non proud of your country?)

Frankly, I don't believe a word of the bs you're slinging, but obviously you're having fun........and people (me in this instance) are playing, so sling away with gusto!

Provide more fiction please!

It's moderately entertaining in these dark times........

clawmarks doesn't need and hopefully doesn't care about your approval so you can press on being the most negative member here at TGT, even though you can't quote his bs.

 

[Charlie]

I'm pretty much not gonna' give my approval for anything, even if I said it! And I haven't even had a beer yet!

 

[V-Tach]

I don't carry batteries in my flashlight either....

They might leak..............

Just remember........ under Texas law a gun with cartridges in the gun is considered readily dischargable whether there's one in the chamber or not.....

If you can't trust your children around a gun with cartridges in it....it should be locked away.......period.....

jmho.....

 

[Mohawk600]

Yeah, to each there own, My wife, Mom and Grandmother all carry with one in the chamber. Just sayin. As for me I carry topped off because I was taught at a very early age to consider all guns loaded and treat them as such. Bricks and cops are too heavy and uncomfortable to carry. (I do carry my SAA .44 hammer down on an empty chamber when i have it though).

When you really need a cop.....they are always minutes away......not seconds. They don't have a duty to protect or serve...they clean up crime scenes and investigate for the most part. Your safety and that of your loved ones falls on YOU.

 

[zackmars]

If having a round in the chamber means the difference between an ND or not, carrying with an empty chamber is not a fix. It's not even a bandaid. You are doing something very, VERY wrong.

At that point, either get some serious training, or get rid of your guns

 

[candcallen]

That tech has been around almost 50 years and it works great. Always has.

The tech didn't catch on for several reasons. In the early days, it was expensive and the target market (police) didn't like the fact that it meant your partner couldn't shoot your revolver. Also, the problem it addressed for cops (bad guy takes your gun and shoots you with it) turned out to be much more inexpensively addressed with security holsters and a bit of weapons retention training. Later on, police moved to semi-automatics where there was no analog. Around the same time, even for the few cops who still carried revolvers, the fact that the required magnetic ring(s) would corrupt floppy disks was also a concern.

It was just never the most efficient or economical way to solve the problems it solves. Therefore, I can understand why it never became a popular piece of technology. Still, it perfectly addresses the concerns that the OP has expressed.

As for me, I don't have one but I can imagine multiple scenarios where it would be a perfect solution to a real world problem.

Did you all read about MRI machines making guns useless till they were demagnatized/degaussed and parts replaced. Its happened a few times to police chasing suspects thru a MRI suite. They didnt know till range day they wouldn't work right. Lucky them.

Ofcourse were talking serious magnets here but I will stay away from magnetic anything when it comes to guns.

I'm trying to find the story. There are plenty about the magnet changing the actual molecular structure of the metal making them brittle or completely deactivating during pin safety making the fire when hitting the machine.

What I'm talking about happens in the pre Glock Auto days of early 80s. Being near a magnetic field locked up a spring or bar that made the gun not fire some times..


Just a FYI that strange shit happens. Rarely in this case but it happens.

 

[cycleguy2300]

When you really need a cop.....they are always minutes away......not seconds. They don't have a duty to protect or serve...they clean up crime scenes and investigate for the most part. Your safety and that of your loved ones falls on YOU.

Actually Texas peace officers do have a duty to "protect and serve"... bone up on your CCP sir.

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[Gilbertc13]

Actually Texas peace officers do have a duty to "protect and serve"... bone up on your CCP sir.

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From what I remember in CCP it’s actually referred to as duty to act or duty to respond. Gotta open up my law book and verify


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[pronstar]

Actually Texas peace officers do have a duty to "protect and serve"... bone up on your CCP sir.

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In DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, SCOTUS ruled that, with very rare exception, the police have no duty to protect people from harm committed by other people.

Edit: typo

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[Shady]

Kind of funny when people make statements from feelings over precedence in the law.


although I would hope that most peace officers would do the right thing.

Actually Texas peace officers do have a duty to "protect and serve"... bone up on your CCP sir.

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[Sam7sf]

That was a huge turn. From a guy who likes to carry without one in the pipe to cops procreating us or not.

Chocolate ice cream is better than all other flavors.

 

[TexasRedneck]

But what's the best gun oil?

 

[Sam7sf]

Hoppes.