Covid Vaccine Issues

[popper]

Yup. Reported cases of Delta variant - supposed continuing pandemic. Highest reported 80 'infections' per 100,000 persons (per county basis - Mo). That is 0.08%!! INFECTED. WE GONNA DIE!!

27B$ charged for the jab, not counting costs to get it 'done'.

 

[oldag]

Grumps was pretty much making the claim that it was about the $$$ and not about whether it worked. My point was that big pharma can make the money and still provide a life saving product. Nobody is making you take the vaccine if you don't feel it is safe or even if you feel that it is just there to enrich big pharma. 350,000,000 doses later in the U.S. and you are still waiting for more data, that's okay- 5 years, 10 years, how long do you want to wait? Do you believe the vaccine should be pulled and withdrawn at this time?

You still refuse to see the point.

If adverse effects don't show up for two years, for example, it doesn't matter if 500 TRILLION people have taken it in the past year.

Since no one has gone longer than a matter of months since taking the vaccine, the long term effects (if any) are COMPLETELY UNKNOWN.

 

[rotor]

You still refuse to see the point.

If adverse effects don't show up for two years, for example, it doesn't matter if 500 TRILLION people have taken it in the past year.

Since no one has gone longer than a matter of months since taking the vaccine, the long term effects (if any) are COMPLETELY UNKNOWN.

So how long do we wait? What amount of time should we wait to see if there is an unknown risk? In the meantime over 4 million have died of Covid.
Should we stop the vaccine now, recall it, wait 2 years before giving another dose? I get your point, just don't agree with the risk/benefit when you are in the midst of an epidemic.

 

[Big Green]

Rumors I’ve heard are DOD wants to mandate it as soon as they can. I’d rather pick my poison if possible. Think I’ll go with the J&J version if everything works out.

 

[Tex62]

You still refuse to see the point.

If adverse effects don't show up for two years, for example, it doesn't matter if 500 TRILLION people have taken it in the past year.

Since no one has gone longer than a matter of months since taking the vaccine, the long term effects (if any) are COMPLETELY UNKNOWN.

This^^^^^ * a billion

Hard pass on this and I don’t give a rat’s ass what anyone thinks. I am sick of the altruism in the form of the pompous panicked folks that don’t think for themselves.

Waiting has revealed tons of side effects and questionable efficacy and we aren’t 6 months into this.

Crap, I just gave a rat’s ass


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[toddnjoyce]

Rumors I’ve heard are DOD wants to mandate it as soon as they can. I’d rather pick my poison if possible. Think I’ll go with the J&J version if everything works out.

It’s not rumor. DoD currently plans to add it as a required immunization as soon as the FDA provides full authorization and not just EUA.

 

[Big Green]

It’s not rumor. DoD currently plans to add it as a required immunization as soon as the FDA provides full authorization and not just EUA.

Do you think if I get the J&J it will be GTG? A buddy currently at OCS says they want Moderna or Phizer. I’d prefer to stay away from mRNA if possible.

 

[easy rider]

So how long do we wait? What amount of time should we wait to see if there is an unknown risk? In the meantime over 4 million have died of Covid.
Should we stop the vaccine now, recall it, wait 2 years before giving another dose? I get your point, just don't agree with the risk/benefit when you are in the midst of an epidemic.

Do you get all your information from the news? If you do, do you take everything as gospel? Did you buy into the "weapons of mass destruction" narrative too? Any day now they'll show up. Ever try looking on your own for truth rather than trust the so called authorities?

I have, and here's a tidbit:

Ever hear of CEPI? Me either until I started digging.
CEPI (Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations) Founded in 2017 at the WEF (World Economics Forum) by none other than Bill Gates and friends. The executive director of CEPI was a woman named Dawn O'Connell. Guess who assumed the Office of the Assistant Secretary (there isn't a secretary) for Preparedness and Response of the Department of Health and Human Services on June 28th 2021?

Now Dawn has a Bachelors in Literature and a JD in Law, but nothing in medicine, yet she is the vaccine czar.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Do you think if I get the J&J it will be GTG? A buddy currently at OCS says they want Moderna or Phizer. I’d prefer to stay away from mRNA if possible.

DoD doesn’t care which brand.

 

[easy rider]

Just remember, none of the vaccines have been proven safe by FDA standards, and even if it doesn't have mRNA, it still alters the DNA to produce spike proteins.

 

[LaborLawPaul]

J&J also uses mRNA to create spike proteins.

 

[Grumps21]

So how long do we wait? What amount of time should we wait to see if there is an unknown risk? In the meantime over 4 million have died of Covid.
Should we stop the vaccine now, recall it, wait 2 years before giving another dose? I get your point, just don't agree with the risk/benefit when you are in the midst of an epidemic.

What epidemic? The Black Plague and Spanish Flu were epidemics. This is nothing like that. Do an internet search and you will see that deaths from all causes for 2020 aren’t much off from years prior. We all remember reading about suicides and auto accidents being chalked up as COVID related just because the patient tested positive. Question: how many deaths last year were due to whatever strain of flu existed two years ago? Non COVID flu took a lot of lives, mainly the week. Me thinks that some or all of these common flu deaths were recorded as COVID. There’s an incentive to do so because it means additional funds courtesy of the US government.

 

[pronstar]

It’s crazy how the flu has been eradicated…what a mystery

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[WT_Foxtrot]

So how long do we wait? What amount of time should we wait to see if there is an unknown risk? In the meantime over 4 million have died of Covid.
Should we stop the vaccine now, recall it, wait 2 years before giving another dose? I get your point, just don't agree with the risk/benefit when you are in the midst of an epidemic.

How long? Give me at least 5-7 years, the average amount of time it would normally take for a vaccine like this to be developed and get approved. And not ALL of them died of covid, even if they had covid. Good grief.........

What happened to my body my choice?

 

[rotor]

What happened to my body my choice?

Nothing happened to it. Choose to take it or not. You talking vaccine or abortion?

 

[LaborLawPaul]

Mapping Tyranny: The Countries Where COVID-19 Vaccination Is Now Mandatory

Mapping Tyranny: The Countries Where COVID-19 Vaccination is Now Mandatory

Mapping Tyranny: The Countries Where COVID-19 Vaccination is Now Mandatory

humansarefree.com

 

[easy rider]

Nothing happened to it. Choose to take it or not. You talking vaccine or abortion?

I don't know, hard to find much on abortion lately, but all day every day lately I'm hearing about coercion, bullying or talk about vaccine passports. You?

 

[WT_Foxtrot]

Nothing happened to it. Choose to take it or not. You talking vaccine or abortion?

Vaccines. Tired of the abortion lobby and their ilk screaming at me to get the vaccine and saying I need a fucking passport or else when it's none of their fucking business, all the while cheering the murder of the unborn as if it's a junior high pep rally.

And nice cut and paste BTW. Sheesh.......

 

[alwho421]

The difference between the drugs I took when I was young and the drugs I take now that I'm old is I used to have to meet a shady dude in an alley, now a multi national corporation has them delivered by USPS. Only problem is I trust the shady dude way more than that multi national corporation.

 

[jrbfishn]

So how long do we wait? What amount of time should we wait to see if there is an unknown risk? In the meantime over 4 million have died of Covid.
Should we stop the vaccine now, recall it, wait 2 years before giving another dose? I get your point, just don't agree with the risk/benefit when you are in the midst of an epidemic.

Of the world population, of 7.9 Billion;
190.6 million cases = 2.11% of pop.
4.1 million deaths = 2.15% of cases.
Percent of population = .051%

Total deaths in the U.S. = .018% of the population.

That died WITH covid, not OF covid.
You are still pedaling the government BS.
Cases in the U.S. still have not even hit 10% of the population.
It's not a pandemic.
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