Mostly peaceful breed

[Wildcat Diva]

All of the dogs I have mentioned have the capability of doing much , much more damage than a pit bull.
I watched a coworker’s home video of his 3 boerboels literally tear an adult leopard to pieces.
All of the other breeds are bred for hunting wild game or to protect from apex predators.

Dogos come in at end of vid. About one minute and change

What about the “X factor” I mentioned the unpredictability “going off” temperament part of the reputation? That is what I think about, just how likely is such a creature (when compared to other big breeds) to lose their shit and go off the reservation when it comes their purpose, to their life as a pet, living around other humans that they are supposed to not see as prey.

 

[baboon]

Sure it’s tragic when kids die from being mauled by dogs & I can list hundreds of other cause just as bad. End of the day it’s not for me to tell others how to live or die, raise their kids, or l anything else.

No one gets out of here alive. Dogs live shorter lives then us to teach us about loosing loved ones. The lesson sometimes are horrific.

 

[Vaquero]

If I kill your dog after it attacks me, who's fault is it?

 

[Wildcat Diva]

If I kill your dog after it attacks me, who's fault is it?

Probably Donald Trump’s? If you ask legacy media.

 

[V-Tach]

Glock's?

Someone has to pay...........

 

[Hoji]

What about the “X factor” I mentioned the unpredictability “going off” temperament part of the reputation? That is what I think about, just how likely is such a creature (when compared to other big breeds) to lose their shit and go off the reservation when it comes their purpose, to their life as a pet, living around other humans that they are supposed to not see as prey.

My point being is that there are many other breeds of dogs that are far more aggressive, massive, and potentially deadly if not trained correctly than a pit bull.
If you ban a breed, another “boutique badass breed” will simply take its place. The media focuses on the pit bull because it is a popular breed that is kept by a subset of society that has no business owning a dog.

All dogs can just “snap off” from Teacup Yorkies to Cane Corsos. It is up to the person to ensure that the members of their pack are controlled.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

My point being is that there are many other breeds of dogs that are far more aggressive, massive, and potentially deadly if not trained correctly than a pit bull.
If you ban a breed, another “boutique badass breed” will simply take its place. The media focuses on the pit bull because it is a popular breed that is kept by a subset of society that has no business owning a dog.

All dogs can just “snap off” from Teacup Yorkies to Cane Corsos. It is up to the person to ensure that the members of their pack are controlled.

I am really confused because I do not see where banning a breed came up in my post. My idea is more about freedom of association. I don’t care to be around those dogs nor have anyone I’m caring for be around them.

I DO think temperament varies among breeds and that not all dog breeds are equally as likely to go off. There are measurable differences between characteristics and breeds. I’m not open to thinking that all breeds have certain characteristics equally dispersed.

And I believe that instinct can quickly overcome training. I’ve not met a dog so well trained that I would trust it to not revert to that primal state when triggered.

 

[oldag]

I DO think temperament varies among breeds and that not all dog breeds are equally as likely to go off. There are measurable differences between characteristics and breeds. I’m not open to thinking that all breeds have certain characteristics equally dispersed.

Of course that is true.

It does not condemn every dog of a certain breed. But on the whole, some breeds are more prone than others.

 

[Shady]

my Mal is 100% calm nice and friendly well behaved listens to commands. I would trust her with any person

until

She sees a cat, skunk, other small furry critter except other dogs.

then the rage hits and no command, raining caller or anything other than a strong leash will keep her from going after it.

animals are animals

my dobie I have yet to find anything that will get him worked up lol

The rottie i just got has never shown aggression but its only been a few weeks so I still don't fully know her well enough to trust her.

 

[Hoji]

I am really confused because I do not see where banning a breed came up in my post. My idea is more about freedom of association. I don’t care to be around those dogs nor have anyone I’m caring for be around them.

I DO think temperament varies among breeds and that not all dog breeds are equally as likely to go off. There are measurable differences between characteristics and breeds. I’m not open to thinking that all breeds have certain characteristics equally dispersed.

And I believe that instinct can quickly overcome training. I’ve not met a dog so well trained that I would trust it to not revert to that primal state when triggered.

Dogs bred to protect have shorter fuses when poorly/untrained as a whole.

You only hear about pit bulls because that is all the MSM talks about.

 

[baboon]

Here's some food for thought in regards to dog breeds.

10 Dog Breeds Most Likely to Bite Humans (With Dog Bite Statistics) | Pet Keen

Learn about the breeds most likely to nip, how to deal with an unruly biter when you're faced with one, and when to seek medical treatment after a bite.

petkeen.com

 

[Tnhawk]

..... The media focuses on the pit bull because it is a popular breed that is kept by a subset of society that has no business owning a dog.

These owners would have similar results with dobermans, german shepards or other breeds because they, not the dogs are the problem.
Do we blame a particular model of gun because a subset of society commonly uses it for their crimes?

 

[London]

The dog is the shooter. Know that. Your associative logic is strange.

Guns aren't sentient.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

These owners would have similar results with dobermans, german shepards or other breeds because they, not the dogs are the problem.
Do we blame a particular model of gun because a subset of society commonly uses it for their crimes?

Yes.

AR15.

ETA: To be clear, "we" dont, but they are unjustly blamed.

 

[Brojon]

The owners always say “gee, he’s never done anything like that before” after their pit bull kills or seriously injures someone. Those dogs should be illegal to own or breed. The numbers don’t lie. I love dogs but pit bulls are dangerous.

Having owned nothing but bully breed mixes/recues for many years I disagree.
Most loveable dogs on the planet. Yes, there are folks that raise them mean. That's a people problem - not the dog.
Mine about turns himself inside out wiggling for joy when he meets other dogs or people.
Damn shame the media calls every dog attack a "pitbull" when they can't reliably identify breeds.
It's just a handy term for them to fall back on in lieu of actual knowledge.
Mine is a mostly American Bulldog mix.
I have no idea what happened with this family - for all anyone knows they allowed teh kids to torment the dogs because they thought the dogs were infinitely tolerant of being abused. If they were rescues and had a "past" it might have been too much.
The point I'm trying to make is that these breeds are normally docile and friendly.
So much so that the AKC doesn't recommend them for guard dogs because they're "too friendly".
In fact they used to be called nanny dogs because they are so good with kids - brought up as family I might add.
We only hear what the dogs did - not what the circumstances were.
Were they family dogs that were integrated as actual family members - or just yard eye candy in an outside dog house?
So I'll keep rescuing these wonderful dogs as I've never found anything else to match their intelligence and devotion..

 

[Brojon]

They’re good dogs right up until they aren’t.

Every pit I’ve been around I wouldn’t trust. No way would I leave children around one.
You never really know what will set one off.

Even Popa Chubby says his pibble is his best friend.

 

[Brojon]

You're confusing legal responsibility with real responsibility of who did it. The dog is a sentient being that makes choices. Sometimes terrible ones. When they do, they have the hardware to do real harm. When death is involved, it's almost 100% a pit involved. It is what it is, and they are what they are.

A hundred years ago it was bloodhounds.
Then there were collies (of all things).
Then it was German Shepherds, then it was dobies, then it was rottweilers.
Maybe you should pay attention to the fact that media is ALWAYS creating villain's to demonize.
It's established fact that mostly news reporters can't be bothered to get details of what breed is involved, nor the circumstances.
"If it bleeds it leads".

 

[Brojon]

It’s an animal capable of great damage. Other dogs are not as capable of the same damage, I don’t think.

lol - see this is where folks repeat made up stuff.
Heard teh one about pitbulls being more dangerous because they can "lock their jaws"?
Or that their jaws have the most crushing power?
All BS made up by overeager reporters trying to come up with a good hook for the gullible.

 

[Brojon]

Yes, but being irresponsible with a pit bull has much further reaching consequences than if your talking about a Yorkie, setter, collie, etc. You cannot change the fact that pit bulls are at the top of the list for killing children and maiming thousands of people. That dog is a big problem and I don’t care who the owner is. You can’t win being illogical.

No, actually pitbulls weren't even on teh list until the NFL idiots started fighting dogs.
In the 60's collies were in the top 5 - Lassie be damned.
Here's a good read on what experts have found about dog bites.

https://positively.com/articles/fatal-dog-bites-share-common-factors/

 

[Hoji]

No, actually pitbulls weren't even on teh list until the NFL idiots started fighting dogs.
In the 60's collies were in the top 5 - Lassie be damned.
Here's a good read on what experts have found about dog bites.

https://positively.com/articles/fatal-dog-bites-share-common-factors/

Data is suspect simply because they push the “spay/neuter dogma “ in that article.