AR Lightweight Budget Build Challenge: See my results!

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  • Was I successful in my light weight budget build?

    • You did a-okay son, yes you did.

      Votes: 8 61.5%
    • No, I would have done this different (explain what you would have done differently).

      Votes: 5 38.5%

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    freeportfreedom

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    So earlier this week I had a spare receiver, LPK, and I felt like doing a "challenge" build throughout the week. I wanted to build a complete 16" AR-15, with an LPVO+mount, that weighed 7 pounds or LESS all inclusive (bolt, lower, upper, stock, optic + mount) for under $1000.

    The lightest budget friendly AR I could find on the market was the M&P 15. It's a standard setup featuring an adjustable stock, and colt-style handguard. It weighs in at 6.7 pounds per the manufacturer website. That's without optic or mount, just iron sights. MSRP is $812 per S&W's website. Here's that rifle below.


    Additional criteria:
    - No skeletonized parts (bolt, handguard, stock, grip, etc). I'm sure I could have shaved another half pound off by skeletonizing everything but that would have increased cost by a LOT going over my budget, and also I am not a fan of running things like a skeletonized bolt, or handguard. Sorry, just my preference, I don't trust the durability. Been to too many carbine classes where someone was out of the game after an hour because their skeletonized handguard cracked under normal course usage.
    - No pencil barrels. This could have saved me another 7-9 ounces of weight probably, but again, I am not a fan of pencil barrels due to your POI shifting greatly after moderate use (several MOA from my experience after 2 mags).
    - No super short or non-MLOK handguards . I'm a tall guy, and I like to have a longer handguard to get a proper c-clamp grip. So can't do short handguards. I also prefer MLOK due to the vast amount of accessories.

    If I had used skeletonized parts, short handguard (below 12"), and a pencil barrel, I am sure I could have gotten under 6 pounds with optic (probably 5.5 - 5.8 area). But probably would have spent another $500+ easily. But I digress.

    My build details below. With each part I weighed them separately on my compact kitchen scale, and tried to round off to the closest hundredths of an ounce.
    1. Completed Lower - Magpul Fixed MOE stock ($30/9.5 ounces), PSA stripped lower ($50, 8.8 ounces), CMMG AR15 LPK w/o FCG ($15, 1.25 ounces), Fostech Binary Sport Trigger ($260/3.6 ounces), Milspec pistrol grip w/hardware ($5, 2.5 ounces), Guntec Carbine buffer kit with tube, carbine spring, and carbine buffer ($29.99, 6.5 ounces).
      Total Lower weight/costs: $390 / 32.15 ounces or 2.0 pounds

    2. Completed Upper - United Defense BCG FA profile ($60, 9.2 ounces), APF Armory 5.56 NATO 16" barrel 1/7 twist ($240, 27 ounces), Davidson Defense 15" Slim profile MLOK handguard with barrel nut ($50, 15 ounces), Recoil Technologies Micro Low-Profile gas block kit with tube ($18, 3.4 ounces), Strike Industries LINK handstop ($12, 1.4 ounces). Various pins + dust cover ($5, 1.0 ounces). I got a free ambi-charging handle from Delta Tactical for ordering the BCG and handguard in the same order, but I'll add $10 and 2 ounces for that as well to make it more realistic.
      Total Upper weight/costs: $395/ 59.0oz or 3.68 pounds

    3. Optic setup - Vortex Crossfire ll 1-4x24 LPVO ($160, 14.8 ounces), UTG 30mm Quick Detach Rings ($29, 2.4 ounces)
      Total Optic Setup weight/costs: $189 / 17.2oz or 1.08 pounds

      Rifle total Weight/Costs: $974.00 / 108.35 ounces or 6.77 pounds

    Now just to sanity check myself, I weighed the complete rifle on my scale with a single empty magazine inserted. I got almost 7 pounds on the dot. Seeing as your average 30 round plastic mag weighs around 3-3.5 ounces, I'd say the total weight was well within the margin of accuracy you can expect from a kitchen scale.
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    Complete rifle:
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    It's so light, I can actually swing it like a baseball bat when I run dry. :laughing:
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    Outrider

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    A properly made barrel should not do that. The group size will open up some, but the POI should not change. Both Faxon and Ballistic Advantage know how to do it right.





    I'm kinda iffy on the Guntec stuff, but if it runs, you did ok.

    My latest is a very light 6.8 pounds without a mag in it. Faxon Match Gunner barrel [half Gov't, half pencil]. It's a 6mm ARC. If you're not mag dumping all day it should not open up too much.

    Edit, this one is NOT a budget friendly build. I am into this one for over $1000.
     

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    CaliGunner

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    Rifle total Weight/Costs: $974.00 / 108.35 ounces or 6.77 pounds"


    Didn't you have to pay an FFL to transfer your stripped lower? $$

    Yeah that’s true, FFL is $25 transfer. I also didn’t add all the theft/taxation. Most shipping was free though. It’s just a rough number. Add another 8% to get it really accurate.
     

    CaliGunner

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    My latest is a very light 6.8 pounds without a mag in it. Faxon Match Gunner barrel [half Gov't, half pencil]. It's a 6mm ARC. If you're not mag dumping all day it should not open up too much.

    Edit, this one is NOT a budget friendly build. I am into this one for over $1000.
    That’s really interesting. So it’s between .610 and .75 in barrel diameter? Might be interested in that.

    Based on my experience here, I am starting an ultra-light build later this month. My goal will be 6 pounds (or under) optic/mount/rifle. I think it’s doable.
     

    Outrider

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    That’s really interesting. So it’s between .610 and .75 in barrel diameter? Might be interested in that.

    Based on my experience here, I am starting an ultra-light build later this month. My goal will be 6 pounds (or under) optic/mount/rifle. I think it’s doable.
    It's tapered twice. Haven't measured it [I didn't build it]. You might be able to get the specs from their website.
     

    TEXAS "All or nothing"

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    Ultra-light. When you are bored stiff, the weather sucks, and ya just wanta see.
    87. oz/ 5.44 lb . It is not a polymer lower. There is no front sling mount, yet. Shitty optic, the rest is quality. I wanted to test drive it before I spent any time matching a quality optic.


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    You can drop another 8oz or more by changing the grip and buttstock assembly.
     

    TEXAS "All or nothing"

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    That’s really interesting. So it’s between .610 and .75 in barrel diameter? Might be interested in that.

    Based on my experience here, I am starting an ultra-light build later this month. My goal will be 6 pounds (or under) optic/mount/rifle. I think it’s doable.
    I rechecked my lite weight build price and it's under $1,200 (due to sale items), but would be in the $1,400 range at regular prices. Today's cost could be another 2-300 more dollars (1,600-1,700 $)?
     

    Eastexasrick

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    You can drop another 8oz or more by changing the grip and buttstock assembly.
    Yes, i agree. And that would cover most of the increase for a quality optic. I took it for a walk yesterday. Off hand shooting in the back 40. Functions properly, heats up a little fast. Going to the sandbags this weekend for a test drive at 200 yds.
     

    TEXAS "All or nothing"

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    As long as you don't add a front site to it then it's not a bad handguard. If you do add a pic attachment make sure it's past the gas block (about 2+"). With a lowpro gb there's not enough room. Brigand arms weight is with the barrel nut as a complete assembly. Other cf type hg manufacturers don't list weight with barrel nut, but do show how much it weighs.
     
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