Cranky Old guy's Griping...

[msharley]

Funny how the metric folks make fun of the imperial measuring system as it was based on the length of a persons foot. But oh the metric system is more scientific. I call BS. Originally in 18th century France a couple of guys got together and decided that a meter would be one 10-millionth of the distance from the north pole to the south pole. But that distance could not be measured, only extrapolated, which is mostly a guess. So they came up with a platinum bar and called it one meter. Not very scientific at all. It was an arbitrary length that was pulled out of some French guys arse in 1792.

Something like?

60,000 Metrications? To the center of the Earth? From Paris?

Yep.

I got a 50' tape...get some frogs some shovels...

We'll get that verified....

 

[msharley]

I think he meant kPa, or kiloPascals. 1 Bar = 100 kPa which is close to 1 atmosphere at sea level. Or roughly 14.5 psi.

Hey Brains,

I have SEVEN tire pressure gauges, two of them the large DUAL FOOT suitable for truck tires (120psi). One of them is "low pressure" for tractor tires & such...30 psi max with good readings at 12psi....

Every fool one of them?

Reads in POUNDS per SQUARE INCH!

Don't know what "kps" or "bars" are. Don't care.

Appreciate the effort in attempting to educate this old man...

Later, Mark

 

[msharley]

I think he meant kPa, or kiloPascals. 1 Bar = 100 kPa which is close to 1 atmosphere at sea level. Or roughly 14.5 psi.

Got a recipe fer that?

 

[msharley]

Think about this? When metric is the only system left? Will they stop teaching fractions in math classes? Fractions are important for some applications.. Just like cursive, which they no longer teach in school.

They make a big deal out of PI. 3.14........................etc

The guy that codified it?

22/7. Simple....

 

[msharley]

In the United States, by Act of Congress in 1866, it became lawful throughout the United States of America to employ the weights and measures of the metric system in all contracts, dealings or court proceedings.

Well.........sure wish they would of stuck with it!

Go to the store.

Fetch up 3lbs of coffee. Or? 1/2gallon of ice cream?

Cain't do it....

They got some god forsaken "metrication" labels on those items.

You can not BUY for LOVE or Money a 3lb can of coffee or 1/2gallon of ice cream..

Its "litter this" "milliltter" that. Some "kilometer" the other....

The Good Book speaks of changing the "weights" & "measures"....(not favorably, either)

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Only drug dealers in the U.S. know how to use the 'metric system'.

 

[robertc1024]

Funny how the metric folks make fun of the imperial measuring system as it was based on the length of a persons foot. But oh the metric system is more scientific. I call BS. Originally in 18th century France a couple of guys got together and decided that a meter would be one 10-millionth of the distance from the north pole to the south pole. But that distance could not be measured, only extrapolated, which is mostly a guess. So they came up with a platinum bar and called it one meter. Not very scientific at all. It was an arbitrary length that was pulled out of some French guys arse in 179

How is that any different than some arbitrary measurement of a foot? Whatever the original source of the meter was it's the only length measurement that can be done intrinsically now. Same with a kilogram. It used to be one of several silicon balls, now it can be measured by a Watt balance based on Planck's constant.

I transition from kPa, psi, bar, MPa, inH2O, inHg, ... seamlessly since I've worked in the pressure measurement world for 36 years. The real screwball units are ones used for low pressure measurements in all kinds of industries. Like inches of water. Originally, those were based on u-tube manometers. You put the water in the tube, put pressure on one side, how much the water rises on the other gives you a pressure measurement. However - the height differential is dependent on the density of the water, and different industries use different densities. Most industrial use is inH2O @ 20C. So they're using a mixture of imperial and metric units! Nuclear power plants use inH2O @4 C. Some others use it @60F. The conversion factors are quite different.

And the article isn't exactly correct. For the US government, the measurement authority is NIST which is under the department of commerce. NIST is thoroughly metric. Almost all legal trade is ultimately based on the SI system. One area that is still very imperial is avionics. Most stuff there is still measured in feet and inches of mercury @0 C.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

I read (paraphrasing) some years back that the U.S. feeds the world, so if you don't like pounds and inches for measurement, go pound sand...

 

[msharley]

I read (paraphrasing) some years back that the U.S. feeds the world, so if you don't like pounds and inches for measurement, go pound sand...

No foreign aid...

Until every US Vet is taken care of!

 

[Fishkiller]

How is that any different than some arbitrary measurement of a foot? Whatever the original source of the meter was it's the only length measurement that can be done intrinsically now. Same with a kilogram. It used to be one of several silicon balls, now it can be measured by a Watt balance based on Planck's constant.

I transition from kPa, psi, bar, MPa, inH2O, inHg, ... seamlessly since I've worked in the pressure measurement world for 36 years. The real screwball units are ones used for low pressure measurements in all kinds of industries. Like inches of water. Originally, those were based on u-tube manometers. You put the water in the tube, put pressure on one side, how much the water rises on the other gives you a pressure measurement. However - the height differential is dependent on the density of the water, and different industries use different densities. Most industrial use is inH2O @ 20C. So they're using a mixture of imperial and metric units! Nuclear power plants use inH2O @4 C. Some others use it @60F. The conversion factors are quite different.

And the article isn't exactly correct. For the US government, the measurement authority is NIST which is under the department of commerce. NIST is thoroughly metric. Almost all legal trade is ultimately based on the SI system. One area that is still very imperial is avionics. Most stuff there is still measured in feet and inches of mercury @0 C.

That was my point. Both systems are based on an arbitrary measurement. Why are there 69 seconds in a minute and 69 minutes in an hour? And why 24 hours in a day? All arbitrary

 

[General Zod]

Why are there 69 seconds in a minute and 69 minutes in an hour?

 

[msharley]

That was my point. Both systems are based on an arbitrary measurement. Why are there 69 seconds in a minute and 69 minutes in an hour? And why 24 hours in a day? All arbitrary

24 hrs in a day?

 

[Fishkiller]

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Well fat finger syndrome strikes again. I guess proofreading may be in order.

Why 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hour?

Feel better?

 

[General Zod]

Well fat finger syndrome strikes again. I guess proofreading may be in order.

Why 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hour?

Feel better?

A little less concerned now, yes...

 

[msharley]

Well fat finger syndrome strikes again. I guess proofreading may be in order.

Why 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hour?

Feel better?

Simple, really,

There are but 360 degrees in a circle...

Divide by 12? 30 degrees. The spacing of the hours on an analog clock...

With "3" & "9" being the "quarter hour".

And "6" being the "half"...

Totally man made contrivance....

Seems? Many of us are "run" by "time"....now a days...

 

[General Zod]

Simple, really,

There are but 360 degrees in a circle...

Divide by 12? 30 degrees. The spacing of the hours on an analog clock...

With "3" & "9" being the "quarter hour".

And "6" being the "half"...

Totally man made contrivance....

Seems? Many of us are "run" by "time"....now a days...

But that begs the question...why 360°?

 

[msharley]

But that begs the question...why 360°?

Too hard to divide 361 by 12?

 

[msharley]

But that begs the question...why 360°?

Actually? I have no idea...

Do know?

Some Greek guy stayed out in the desert in North Africa for a while...

Figured the Earth's circumference to within 600 miles of what it is today....!!

About 500 or 600 years..........BEFORE CHRIST!

That? Took a bunch o' skratchin's in the sands!

 

[General Zod]

Actually? I have no idea...

Do know?

Some Greek guy stayed out in the desert in North Africa for a while...

Figured the Earth's circumference to within 600 miles of what it is today....!!

About 500 or 600 years..........BEFORE CHRIST!

That? Took a bunch o' skratchin's in the sands!

And a lot of careful measurements of shadows at the exact same time of day.

I wonder if the 360° thing has to do with base-12 math...which apparently for some uses is easier than base 10 for certain mathematically inclined lunatics.

 

[msharley]

And a lot of careful measurements of shadows at the exact same time of day.

I wonder if the 360° thing has to do with base-12 math...which apparently for some uses is easier than base 10 for certain mathematically inclined lunatics.

Like the 12' tall, six fangered folk?