Uh oh, THIS thread again: legalization of drugs

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  • jordanmills

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    Prohibitions don't work. Didn't work for alcohol, doesn't work for guns (or any other weapon), and isn't working for pot & narcotics. All prohibitions do is create a black market, and the stronger the prohibition the stronger the black market gets to defeat it. The money mostly wasted on enforcement would be more effective on education and addiction counseling.
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    I was asking the OP, for a specific reason.

    And just in general, what makes anyone think the illegal drug trade business would go away?

    The fact that the market they cater to would essentially vanish as legitimate, legal sources of (most likely) better-quality, less harmful product pop up on the white market.

    Granted, I'm not an economist, but it seems that if it's possible for your clients to get higher-quality stuff for cheap, then you're pretty well screwed.
     

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    The cartels wouldn't dissapear. They would still be there, selling product tax free and fighting for territory just like always. Hell, they might even fight to become "legal" companies, to sell and export into the U.S., but you damn well better know there will still be fighting and killing amongst them.

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    The cartels wouldn't dissapear. They would still be there, selling product tax free and fighting for territory just like always. Hell, they might even fight to become "legal" companies, to sell and export into the U.S., but you damn well better know there will still be fighting and killing amongst them.

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    The beer and cigs mentioned are taxed ridiculous amounts and there is still little or no black market.

    The cartels do sell to other countries besides the US but to a lesser extent. They would most likely just find a new product to traffic. Doubtful it would be as lucrative as the drug trade.
     

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    The cartels wouldn't dissapear. They would still be there, selling product tax free and fighting for territory just like always. Hell, they might even fight to become "legal" companies, to sell and export into the U.S., but you damn well better know there will still be fighting and killing amongst them.

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    I've never known a pothead that enjoyed rolling up to even the friendliest of drug dealers to get some weed, most would rather just buy it and some papers at the same gas station. The tax free black market thing is pretty overblown. You'd have lots of home growers for personal use or among a few friends but the idea multimillion dollar underground marijuana distribution cartels within US borders is a bit silly. Either way just nail their ass on tax evasion when they are busted and move on.

    You might have some fighting in Mexico still but they are apparently hell bent on being corrupt violent shitheads down there so let them be. The market here would in all likelihood become quickly dominated by domestic production anyways.
     

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    The beer and cigs mentioned are taxed ridiculous amounts and there is still little or no black market.

    The cartels do sell to other countries besides the US but to a lesser extent. They would most likely just find a new product to traffic. Doubtful it would be as lucrative as the drug trade.

    Don't be so sure. This is a way different product than beer or cigs. It still has to be imported, and we all know the stupid hoops that is required to import stuff in, not to mention a product like that. It'll have to go through the ATF, FDA, and after that's all said and done, you know the government is gunna want a piece of dat azz too profit wise. So yes, there will still be a huge black market for this.

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    Don't be so sure. This is a way different product than beer or cigs. It still has to be imported, and we all know the stupid hoops that is required to import stuff in, not to mention a product like that. It'll have to go through the ATF, FDA, and after that's all said and done, you know the government is gunna want a piece of dat azz too profit wise. So yes, there will still be a huge black market for this.

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    Why would it have to be imported it it were legal? Hell, you can grow pot anywhere and people are making meth in their kitchens.

    As far as everybody getting a price if the pie, see the cigarette and beer thang one more time. In Texas we pay about 100% tax on a pack of smokes, depending on brand.
     

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    Don't be so sure. This is a way different product than beer or cigs. It still has to be imported, and we all know the stupid hoops that is required to import stuff in, not to mention a product like that. It'll have to go through the ATF, FDA, and after that's all said and done, you know the government is gunna want a piece of dat azz too profit wise. So yes, there will still be a huge black market for this.

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    Its been proven that drugs and firearms go very well together
     

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    Not a drug user but heavily against the current marijuana laws. I particularly hate having to bail people out at 6 in the morning because they had a teeny tiny amount of marijuana on them. Sure, its their fault that they had that knowing it was against the law, but that doesn't change the fact that its a stupid law to begin with. That tiny bag wasn't hurting anyone, and arresting people for possessing it (not even under the influence) is just flat out retarded, IMO.
     

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    Yes you do.


    No, I do not.

    You made statement that could be made about thousands if other things. Hell, life in general is dangerous. So no, I do not see any point to your statement as it pertains to this thread.
     
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