308 rifles, real world accuracy? What you got?

[PhulesAu]

I'm liking the combination of good shooters out of the box, factory Ammo, and real world performance. Thanks guys

 

[JimmyB]

Will have to take pics next time I take the scar out to the range. With the us optics 1-8 it does pretty well.

 

[Txhillbilly]

If you are stuck buying off the shelf ammo , what barrel length? My 700 is a 20", but I'd like to get the most from a basic 6.5. 24 - 26"?

Most of us that shoot the 6.5 Creedmoor use a 26" barrel

Most 6.5 creedmoor velocities are quoted off 24" barrels I believe. The lrp is 26" and runs the factory hornady ammo rated at 2710 really well. The big allure of the 6.5 creedmoor is the cheap, and very accurate hornady factory ammo. At 20 bucks a box its pretty hard to beat. When I buy my creedmoor Im going to buy a 1000 rounds of it since its cheap, shoots great and will give me plenty of brass to reload.

Don't waste your time buying Hornady factory ammo and plan on using the brass for reloading. Most of the primer pockets will be too large for new primers. I only handload for mine,and the once fired factory brass don't cut it!
I either buy virgin brass,or make it from 22-250 brass. Nosler is making brass now,but I haven't tried any.

Not to mention when you do start reloading Hornady gives you the exact recipe for there loads.

H4350 is a good powder,but I also use Hybrid 100V,H414,Reloader 15/17/and 19 on mine. They all work great with the Creedmoor.

 

[dee]

H 4350 seems to be the ticket for both the Creedmoor and the 260. Probably the reason it is so hard to get these days.

 

[PhulesAu]

I wished I had the space and ability to reload, but as much trouble as it is to obtain components......... Well I think I'll go the lazy route.

 

[deemus]

I shot a 4 shot 3/4" group at 100 yds with my FNAR. I used some 125g ballistic tips I was working up a load for my daughter to shoot.

While its likely no where near what some on here can shoot, its good for me.

I think I used IMR 4064 for my 165g Hornady SST's, and W748 for the 125g Nosler Ballistic tips. I would not even consider using factory loads in my rifles, but if I did I would shoot the Hornady stuff.

 

[PhulesAu]

165g ?? My .308 likes the 168g.

 

[deemus]

Pretty sure the 30 cal only comes in 165 and 180.

 

[OnyxATX]

My 700 SPS AAC generally shoots 168 BTHP within 1" at 100 yards without issue. If it's in a rest, the group is about 3/4" without issue. 6 to 8" steel at 250 yards is a joke.

However, it has some "off days." If I clean it extremely well (or there's a big temp change) the groups open up a bit. It enjoys being just a bit dirty. The last time I had it out, at 100 yards the first four rounds were in about a 2.5" group. The next four were easily inside an inch.

Edit to add- breakingcontact - you're welcome to run my 700 any time you want.

 

[rubberdown]

Pretty sure the 30 cal only comes in 165 and 180.

Pretty sure your wrong. I shoot SMK 168s and 175s. And there's a million others.

 

[Younggun]

Pretty sure your wrong. I shoot SMK 168s and 175s. And there's a million others.

Pretty sure he was referring to the SST line specifically. Comes in 150, 165, and 180 for .30 cal.


Simple miscommunication I'm sure.

 

[deemus]

Pretty sure your wrong. I shoot SMK 168s and 175s. And there's a million others.

I was referring to SST's. I'm aware other 30 cal bullets come in lots of weights.

(Giggle).

 

[breakingcontact]

My 700 SPS AAC generally shoots 168 BTHP within 1" at 100 yards without issue. If it's in a rest, the group is about 3/4" without issue. 6 to 8" steel at 250 yards is a joke.

However, it has some "off days." If I clean it extremely well (or there's a big temp change) the groups open up a bit. It enjoys being just a bit dirty. The last time I had it out, at 100 yards the first four rounds were in about a 2.5" group. The next four were easily inside an inch.

Edit to add- breakingcontact - you're welcome to run my 700 any time you want.

Much appreciate the offer.

Haven't seen you at lunch for awhile. Come by and catch up with us if you have time.

 

[ervdrvr1]

FN TSR-XP .308($900), Sightron 4x16x42AO Mildot($450), Harris Bi-pod($50), Karsten Adj Cheekrest($30?),Hornady 168gr TAP(A-MAX), 100yrd, 4 rounds, on a bench with no rear support. This is primarily my target play gun.

For hunting, my pre WWII Model 94 in .30WCF has all the "Real World Accuracy" I need out to 200 yrds with irons.

In other words...."Real World Accuracy" is subjective. Accurate for what? Hunting...or Benchrest competition? Two totally different worlds. With totally different concepts of "Real World Accuracy"

Now....you just have to decide what "world" you want to live in.....

 

[1slow01Z71]

Most of us that shoot the 6.5 Creedmoor use a 26" barrel



Don't waste your time buying Hornady factory ammo and plan on using the brass for reloading. Most of the primer pockets will be too large for new primers. I only handload for mine,and the once fired factory brass don't cut it!
I either buy virgin brass,or make it from 22-250 brass. Nosler is making brass now,but I haven't tried any.



H4350 is a good powder,but I also use Hybrid 100V,H414,Reloader 15/17/and 19 on mine. They all work great with the Creedmoor.

Interesting, I've had great luck with hornady brass in my 308. Plenty of other people having good luck with it as well in 6.5.

Pretty sure he was referring to the SST line specifically. Comes in 150, 165, and 180 for .30 cal.


Simple miscommunication I'm sure.

125 as well.

 

[deemus]

Haven't seen the 125 SSTs. Been using Nosler Ballistic tips in 125g.

Think I will try to find those. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[breakingcontact]

So what do Savage and Remington offer differently from one another?

 

[PhulesAu]

For 1 the Barrel nut Savage uses, makes it easier to have a "multi" caliber gun. from what I've read, you need a wrench,vice and head space gauge and time to swap.

 

[1slow01Z71]

Haven't seen the 125 SSTs. Been using Nosler Ballistic tips in 125g.

Think I will try to find those. Thanks for the heads up.

Good luck finding em. I love them for my 300blk but havent been able to get any in a while. My backorders havent been filled from 3 months ago.

So what do Savage and Remington offer differently from one another?

Nothing really. There are some differences but none really come into play unless you plan to mod it or swap calibers in house.

 

[deemus]

Good luck finding em. I love them for my 300blk but havent been able to get any in a while. My backorders havent been filled from 3 months ago.

You might consider the Nosler 125 ballistic tip. I have been very happy with them, and they are readily available, though a bit more expensive than the SSTs.