A Message to the Church of Bill of Sale

[gshayd]

I have never asked for any information when I made a private sale or trade to another person. Now I have had two people ask for a bill of sale. I told them they needed to type it up and bring it I wasn't going to do it.

 

[Moonpie]

Here is an thought: Would it be “illegal” to use a fake I.D. in this situation?
You’re not presenting it to legitimately authorized people.
You’re presenting to Joe Schmoe.

 

[Hoji]

It's one of my constant amusements in life to watch those preaching freedom demand things NOT required under the law from fellow freedom-lovers. If I'm selling a gun and you have a Texas-issued ID to SHOW me, and can look me in the eyes and tell me you can legally buy/own a firearm, then pay me, take your gun and go.

That crack-whore BOS has NOTHING legally binding, and as noted will only serve to help prosecute you for being an unlicensed dealer. Beyond there - I don't want you having my name and address tying me back to a gun that some scumbag that breaks into YOUR house can use to locate his next honey-hole.

I've passed on that kind of bullshit before, and I will every time. As noted - if you want to be THAT safe, do it via an FFL - and then please move to California.

Did I make my opinion clear enough??

Glad to hear you chime in. How have ya been?

 

[toddnjoyce]

Here is an thought: Would it be “illegal” to use a fake I.D. in this situation?
You’re not presenting it to legitimately authorized people.
You’re presenting to Joe Schmoe.

Hmmm. I like your thinking.

Still ain’t doing a BOS.

 

[TexasRedneck]

I have never asked for any information when I made a private sale or trade to another person. Now I have had two people ask for a bill of sale. I told them they needed to type it up and bring it I wasn't going to do it.

The one guy I've had ask, I told him if he needed a BOS to buy my gun, we weren't doing the deal - and then proceeded to explain why. He musta liked what I said, because he bought it anyway. That's the problem with this urban legend bullshit - the new guys think that it's supposed to be that way because the "better safe than sorry" folks say so. To that, I say.....

 

[TexasRedneck]

Here is an thought: Would it be “illegal” to use a fake I.D. in this situation?
You’re not presenting it to legitimately authorized people.
You’re presenting to Joe Schmoe.

If I don't know you from Adam's off-ox and you present me with a phony ID, that's fine. You'll be leaving without my gun. If I know you - I ain't even asking. All I wanna know is that you're a Texas resident, that's it. It's a reasonable request, IMO. Could you slide a fake ID past me? Maybe....but part of my job used to involve checking ID's, so good luck.

 

[TexasRedneck]

Glad to hear you chime in. How have ya been?

Thanks! No complaints - being "retired" is kinda a challenge, though.... Between the gun shop I partnered with, and my water treatment "side job" I'd done for 40 years that I kicked up when I retired......I'm tired!!! LOL

Surprisingly, the water company part is something I'd done all these years, and would do 2-3 softeners a quarter - which is all I really cared about. It was intended to just be something to keep me occupied and outta Schoolmarm's hair. Put it this way - just bought a (used, new to me) 1 ton dually 4x4 (I do some ranches in the boonies), had a Harbor utility bed installed on it along with a lift gate, and am getting the bed lined Tuesday before I put it into service. Fuelfather (my oldest boy) has been lending a hand - when I'm ready to fully retire, I'm gonna turn it over to him. He surprised me last year, and asked about buying it. I didn't do all this to make money off my own - so when I walk, he gets the company with just the promise to be honest and fair to our customers. But the truck.....he ain't getting IT! I'm gonna be the ornery old cuss in town that'll run yer butt OVER.....lol

 

[Shady]

So would an ID with my finger over my info work. You can see Texas and my Pic on it or better yet same thing with my License to carry ?

If I don't know you from Adam's off-ox and you present me with a phony ID, that's fine. You'll be leaving without my gun. If I know you - I ain't even asking. All I wanna know is that you're a Texas resident, that's it. It's a reasonable request, IMO. Could you slide a fake ID past me? Maybe....but part of my job used to involve checking ID's, so good luck.

 

[Renegade]

It's one of my constant amusements in life to watch those preaching freedom demand things NOT required under the law from fellow freedom-lovers. If I'm selling a gun and you have a Texas-issued ID to SHOW me, and can look me in the eyes and tell me you can legally buy/own a firearm, then pay me, take your gun and go.

The definition of irony.

 

[Renegade]

Here is an thought: Would it be “illegal” to use a fake I.D. in this situation?
You’re not presenting it to legitimately authorized people.
You’re presenting to Joe Schmoe.

What kind of ID? A fake Texas DL is illegal just to possess.

 

[bigwheel]

The one guy I've had ask, I told him if he needed a BOS to buy my gun, we weren't doing the deal - and then proceeded to explain why. He musta liked what I said, because he bought it anyway. That's the problem with this urban legend bullshit - the new guys think that it's supposed to be that way because the "better safe than sorry" folks say so. To that, I say..... View attachment 162302

Glad somebody thinks Dallas is still number one.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Glad somebody thinks Dallas is still number one.

At number two

 

[Charlie]

The one guy I've had ask, I told him if he needed a BOS to buy my gun, we weren't doing the deal - and then proceeded to explain why. He musta liked what I said, because he bought it anyway. That's the problem with this urban legend bullshit - the new guys think that it's supposed to be that way because the "better safe than sorry" folks say so. To that, I say..... View attachment 162302

Great to see ya' on here! Hah!

 

[ZX9RCAM]

What kind of ID? A fake Texas DL is illegal just to possess.

Is it still illegal if possessed by an illegal alien?
Wouldn't that be a double negative or something ?









obviously j/k

 

[TexasRedneck]

So would an ID with my finger over my info work. You can see Texas and my Pic on it or better yet same thing with my License to carry ?

Sure. I can see your face on a Tx issued ID. All I wanna know.

 

[TexasRedneck]

The definition of irony.

Mebbe so. If someone don't like it, not a problem.

 

[Coiled]

A Message to the Church of Bill of Sale

So, you revive the dead horse just so you can beat the shit out of it? I'm shocked .. shocked I tell you!

 

[Coiled]

If I don't know you from Adam's off-ox and you present me with a phony ID, that's fine. You'll be leaving without my gun. If I know you - I ain't even asking. All I wanna know is that you're a Texas resident, that's it. It's a reasonable request, IMO. Could you slide a fake ID past me? Maybe....but part of my job used to involve checking ID's, so good luck.

Lol

 

[PRE-K]

OP... What is you opinion on NOT requiring a BOS, but asking a FTF buyer to ONLY DISPLAY a CHL/LTC? As in, no driver's license accepted.

I do offer an FFL transfer option on my for sale posts, so any (eligible) buyer with just a DL or ID can still go that route.

 

[Hoji]

OP... What is you opinion on NOT requiring a BOS, but asking a FTF buyer to ONLY DISPLAY a CHL/LTC? As in, no driver's license accepted.

I do offer an FFL transfer option on my for sale posts, so any (eligible) buyer with just a DL or ID can still go that route.

For me it is a no sale. I will just ask you to ship it to Central Texas GunWorks rather than give a stranger the opportunity to memorize my address if it is a must have gun for me. There are not too many “must have” guns on my list.