Teacher with a handgun against an AR-15 wielding shooter, to me, is not the solution. The shooter should never get that far into the school. National guard personnel, not necessarily in uniform, could man the outside patrols along with signs stating armed patrol, instead of "Gun Free Zone" signs would suffice.I'll make an unpopular comment.
In a professional capacity I interact with a lot on k-12 teachers.
I've spoken to a half dozen of them this last week.
In my unofficial, unscientific, unverifiable "poll" 100% of them, mostly young women, effectively say "no way in hell" would they or anyone they know want to be armed and trained to take on a crazed school shooter.
The reality is that a teacher with a handgun taking on a modestly proficient AR-15 shooter would be a suicide mission. How many 30-something 4th grade teachers would even consider this?
Painful as it is, there is no non-painful answer to what happened in Florida.
Not unless our society can recruit all the retired special-forces military men and women to be 3rd grade English teachers and HS geometry teachers!! I'll not hold my breath.
If I was a teacher at that school, I would take a handgun over a chair any day to fight off an AR.Teacher with a handgun against an AR-15 wielding shooter, to me, is not the solution. The shooter should never get that far into the school. National guard personnel, not necessarily in uniform, could man the outside patrols along with signs stating armed patrol, instead of "Gun Free Zone" signs would suffice.
Teacher with a handgun against an AR-15 wielding shooter, to me, is not the solution. The shooter should never get that far into the school. National guard personnel, not necessarily in uniform, could man the outside patrols along with signs stating armed patrol, instead of "Gun Free Zone" signs would suffice.
The first two or three kids shot were outside of the school building (not inside it). Most of these shooters (not this particular instance, but most) are set on forfeiting their life (suicide). And is generally recognized, for someone committed to a suicide endeavor, there’s virtually no way to stop them before some damage (deaths) occur. Thus the call to arm folks who can respond more quickly to stop the threat.
It’s not uncommon for these nut cases to kill themselves at the first sign of resistance to their actions. So in some (many?) cases, the hand gun verses rifle argument becomes a moot point. Otherwise, it certainly would depend on the marksmanship of the teacher involved.
Unnecessary.
As mentioned, an armed teacher would have a huge advantage if defending a classroom.
I don't think anybody expects teachers to go in to the hallways to clear a school, but defending one room with one entrance...those aren't bad odds even if it's a handgun vs rifle situation.
I don't see military personal being stationed at schools or needed at schools. And I can assure you that those getting school duty wouldn't be the best of the best. More like rear D.
Teacher with a handgun against an AR-15 wielding shooter, to me, is not the solution. The shooter should never get that far into the school. National guard personnel, not necessarily in uniform, could man the outside patrols along with signs stating armed patrol, instead of "Gun Free Zone" signs would suffice.
My students may be older, but I still feel I have a responsibility to them while they're in my class. I do also have some high schoolers.easy rider; All,
Give my kid sister a revolver & just a few minutes to hide her students, pile up some desks & she will AMBUSH any predator from any available cover/concealment, who decides to enter her school-room to shoot up her homeroom.
Fwiw, NANCY is FAR from alone in being willing to DIE defending her class members, as she thinks of them as HER kids.
yours, satx
It doesn't necessarily have to be military but keeping all weapons outside is preferable to in class room. Guard have to report for duty so much a month don't they. Doesn't seem like they would all be rear D.Unnecessary.
As mentioned, an armed teacher would have a huge advantage if defending a classroom.
I don't think anybody expects teachers to go in to the hallways to clear a school, but defending one room with one entrance...those aren't bad odds even if it's a handgun vs rifle situation.
I don't see military personal being stationed at schools or needed at schools. And I can assure you that those getting school duty wouldn't be the best of the best. More like rear D.
Why would keeping guns outside be preferable to guns in the classroom? That doesn't even make sense if the shooting starts inside.It doesn't necessarily have to be military but keeping all weapons outside is preferable to in class room. Guard have to report for duty so much a month don't they. Doesn't seem like they would all be rear D.
You couldn't count on that from a gun forum, let alone CNN.Now if they could prove that a poll was taken from only those that have an understanding of guns, I might put more weight behind it.