ATF jacked me up!!!!

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  • jgon281

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    I went to the Austin gun show . A guy walks up to me and asked " How you been ?'' I looked at him crazy and said somthing like I am not from here . The guy then asked '' weren't you in the fed ?'' meaning the pen. I told him that I was never locked up at any point in my life. I walked on . I left hours later with 1000 rnds. of .223 that I purchased .I brought my 9mm along to look for a good holster for it . My gun still had the zip tie on it . I was dropped off /picked up by my friend because I knew the parking would be too crazy ... I was right . After getting food to go we were pulled over by three APD. We were given the " felon with a gun treatment'' . The APD was called by the ATF to detain me while they stood aside and looked on. I was cleared over an hour later . ATF said their ex-con snitch told them I was in the federal pen before and they jacked me up on this basis. I was free to go but I can't help but be pissed that they would violate my rights like that ... be aware the ATF is under cover at all gun shows if did not allready know this. I was wronged big time !!!
     

    mac79912

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    They have been at the shop weekly.They take our record book,walk out,then come back hours later without telling us anything.I hope you got the agents names.You should contact a local news station and tell them your story.Glad they cleared you as I know people that have had to spend more than an hour clearing their names.Hope this does not keep you away from the gunshows.Make a complaint with IA against the APD officers who detained you so it will be on file.The APD were just doing their jobs but you need to make enough noise to let them know that you will not stand for having your rights violated.I would also search for a lawyer but I do not think you would get anything out of it.Did they apologize?I betcha they did not and were probably laughing while you waited to get cleared.
     

    Shorts

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    Sorry you got the treatment. I think I'd really be considering lawyers and following this up with some kind of closure. I guess it would depend on the day for me how fired up I'd get about it. Media sounds good
     

    txinvestigator

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    I went to the Austin gun show . A guy walks up to me and asked " How you been ?'' I looked at him crazy and said somthing like I am not from here . The guy then asked '' weren't you in the fed ?'' meaning the pen. I told him that I was never locked up at any point in my life. I walked on . I left hours later with 1000 rnds. of .223 that I purchased .I brought my 9mm along to look for a good holster for it . My gun still had the zip tie on it . I was dropped off /picked up by my friend because I knew the parking would be too crazy ... I was right . After getting food to go we were pulled over by three APD. We were given the " felon with a gun treatment'' . The APD was called by the ATF to detain me while they stood aside and looked on. I was cleared over an hour later . ATF said their ex-con snitch told them I was in the federal pen before and they jacked me up on this basis. I was free to go but I can't help but be pissed that they would violate my rights like that ... be aware the ATF is under cover at all gun shows if did not allready know this. I was wronged big time !!!

    What reason did APD give for stopping you? What did they do during the stop? When and where was the gun show?

    The ATF can stop you on their own, they don't need a local to do it. I wonder why they would call in APD?
     

    glockrocker

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    I'm curious about all of investigator's questions and the snitch, think he just randomly pointed you out at the show, or gave them your name? think you might know who it is?
     

    jgon281

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    The APD gave no reason other than ...

    they were called by ATF to stop and detain me while ATF looked on . This happened last Saturday at Austin gun show. I was detained and had to sit cuffed in a patrol car as well as my friend. He was in a seperate car and they kept asking him was he sure that I wasn't a felon . The guy was a total stranger and they just went on his false information.
     

    txinvestigator

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    they were called by ATF to stop and detain me while ATF looked on . This happened last Saturday at Austin gun show. I was detained and had to sit cuffed in a patrol car as well as my friend. He was in a seperate car and they kept asking him was he sure that I wasn't a felon . The guy was a total stranger and they just went on his false information.

    SInce you don't want to be specific I can't help you sort this out. However, I will say based on the limited info provided I have to think there is more to the story.
     

    jgon281

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    I had a a full detailed message all ready to submit but the page went blank as soon a I was just about finished .. so here is my shortend version because I don't want it to just go blank again in the process. The officer said (((((I was stopped because the ATF asked them to do so))))) . I gave them permission to get my I.D. out of my pocket. They ran my name. Keep in mind the ATF did not even know me from any other stranger... no name or any other info . Nothing. The APD said after running my I.D. that there is a guy or several guys out there with the same name that are felons . One guy even has the same birthday as me. They did not question me as far as I can remember ,they just ran my I.D. We were in his vehicle and were stopped . How did ATF get my name initially you might ask ? They did not have any info. on me at all untill they got the info. from my drivers licence. please ask if you have any further question TXinvestigator
     

    JKTex

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    What reason did APD give for stopping you? What did they do during the stop? When and where was the gun show?

    The ATF can stop you on their own, they don't need a local to do it. I wonder why they would call in APD?

    what else do you need to know tx investagator? I want advise so ask away

    He gave you something to start with. :D
     

    jgon281

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    read the message above yours tx and see my response... as far as why the ATF didn't just pull me over themselves ? Good question ...I don't have the answer . They were in plain clothes . what other questions do you have ? did my message #6 not anwer your questions in #4?
     

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