Cedar Park Gun Show?

[Dash Riprock]

Dang.. So it was a chl holder, I'm guessing.. Why the heck have your finger on the trigger??????

So if it was a CHL holder, can we assume that he disarmed or unloaded his weapon due to the illegal/improper/unenforceable 30.06 signs posted on the Cedar Park Center and the LEO's there to enforce the unenforceable sign? Because if so, and the accident happened while he was loading what would have otherwise been an already loaded weapon but for his compliance with the illegal/improper/unenforceable sign, then perhaps the family of the victim has standing to sue whoever is responsible for posting the sign, so that maybe they won't be posted on government buildings anymore?

Just posting as food for thought. I'm not advocating the family do this, I'm not saying it's right, and I wouldn't do it. But this is exactly how the left gets the things it can't otherwise get.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Story's on the Statesman's website now. Horribly and in all likelihood intentionally lacking in detail. No mention whatsoever of the circumstances of the tragedy. By all indications, this has NOTHING to do with the show. NOTHING. KXAN's 3 sentence blurb was infinitely more informative than this horsecrap.


Man dead after shooting at Cedar Park gun show | www.statesman.com

Cedar Park police are investigating a shooting at a gun show that left a man dead in the Cedar Park Center parking lot, event organizers said.
The shooting took place just outside the Austin Gun Show around 5:30 p.m. Saturday, said Michelle Finucane, who organizes gun shows around the state with her husband Tim Finucane.
Organizers of the event at Cedar Park Center released an official statement on the gun show website.
“All of us here are deeply saddened by this tragic event,” they said in the statement. “Right now, there are more questions than answers, and we and our security department are doing everything possible to assist the Cedar Park Police Department in their investigation. We are prayerful for the immediate family and also for those who witnessed this. Very difficult.”
After discussions with Finucane’s business, Premier Gun Shows, the gun show scheduled for Sunday was moved to Aug. 2-3, according to the statement.
Cedar Park Police said they working on a press release with more information.

 

[majormadmax]

So if it was a CHL holder, can we assume that he disarmed or unloaded his weapon due to the illegal/improper/unenforceable 30.06 signs posted on the Cedar Park Center and the LEO's there to enforce the unenforceable sign? Because if so, and the accident happened while he was loading what would have otherwise been an already loaded weapon but for his compliance with the illegal/improper/unenforceable sign, then perhaps the family of the victim has standing to sue whoever is responsible for posting the sign, so that maybe they won't be posted on government buildings anymore?

Just posting as food for thought. I'm not advocating the family do this, I'm not saying it's right, and I wouldn't do it. But this is exactly how the left gets the things it can't otherwise get.

So, you'd rather have someone who is complacent in the handling of firearms inside a crowded gun show than out in their own vehicle?

And how do you think the media would cover this accident if it had occurred within the gun show?

Sorry, but I still agree with the restriction of loaded firearms at a gun show. As this tragic incident shows, there is always a danger when handling loaded firearms and had this individual done the same inside a show the results could have been even worse. I lost count of the number of times I have been muzzle swept by so-called firearms experts at gun shows, and even with 30.06 enforced I know there are some people who will still go in armed.

As this tragedy points out, even CHL holders cannot be trusted completely to properly handle a weapon.

And to even suggest that the show organizers are somehow responsible for this is ludicrous. It is such ridiculous ideas that lead to increased restrictions and other laws that work against the firearms community. There is one person to be blamed for the death and that is the person who shot the gun.

 

[RunnerRunner]

I will also note that I sent a customer to Runner Runner. He came back around to show off his new billet "come and take it" lower.

Thank you.

 

[Dash Riprock]

So, you'd rather have someone who is complacent in the handling of firearms inside a crowded gun show than out in their own vehicle?

And how do you think the media would cover this accident if it had occurred within the gun show?

Sorry, but I still agree with the restriction of loaded firearms at a gun show. As this tragic incident shows, there is always a danger when handling loaded firearms and had this individual done the same inside a show the results could have been even worse. I lost count of the number of times I have been muzzle swept by so-called firearms experts at gun shows, and even with 30.06 enforced I know there are some people who will still go in armed.

As this tragedy points out, even CHL holders cannot be trusted completely to properly handle a weapon.

And to even suggest that the show organizers are somehow responsible for this is ludicrous. It is such ridiculous ideas that lead to increased restrictions and other laws that work against the firearms community. There is one person to be blamed for the death and that is the person who shot the gun.

He wouldn't be handling it inside the show - concealed is concealed, in theory anyway. He was forced to unload because of the 30.06 sign, which shouldn't have been posted to begin with.

I know what you're saying, and I specifically said in my post I am not advocating this. I'm just pointing out what the left would do if they were in "our" shoes and wanted something changed. It's always somebody else's fault. Read the comments on those articles linked above.

Not to get off track, but my feelings on the 30.06 posting at shows has always been that if we want people to be restricted from carrying inside a show, then that should be a statutory exception. Right now it's not, Cedar Park Center is a government owned building, and therefore a 30.06 sign should not be allowed.

 

[breakingcontact]

Did you get a chance to check out any CZ's?

I did. Checked one out at The Gun Store in CPT and some at the show. I do like them a lot. Ended up going with an M&P like I figured I sould. Blucore in RR had a big sale going. Shot it in IDPA today. I did surprisingly well on accuracy. Now I need to stop shooting each target three times to cut my time down.

 

[breakingcontact]

So if it was a CHL holder, can we assume that he disarmed or unloaded his weapon due to the illegal/improper/unenforceable 30.06 signs posted on the Cedar Park Center and the LEO's there to enforce the unenforceable sign? Because if so, and the accident happened while he was loading what would have otherwise been an already loaded weapon but for his compliance with the illegal/improper/unenforceable sign, then perhaps the family of the victim has standing to sue whoever is responsible for posting the sign, so that maybe they won't be posted on government buildings anymore?

Just posting as food for thought. I'm not advocating the family do this, I'm not saying it's right, and I wouldn't do it. But this is exactly how the left gets the things it can't otherwise get.

There is an excellent point here. Forcing people to upholster and then reholster is far less safe than just leaving the gun bolstered.

 

[duckknot]

There is an excellent point here. Forcing people to upholster and then reholster is far less safe than just leaving the gun bolstered.

He wouldn't be handling it inside the show - concealed is concealed, in theory anyway. He was forced to unload because of the 30.06 sign, which shouldn't have been posted to begin with.

I know what you're saying, and I specifically said in my post I am not advocating this. I'm just pointing out what the left would do if they were in "our" shoes and wanted something changed. It's always somebody else's fault. Read the comments on those articles linked above.

Not to get off track, but my feelings on the 30.06 posting at shows has always been that if we want people to be restricted from carrying inside a show, then that should be a statutory exception. Right now it's not, Cedar Park Center is a government owned building, and therefore a 30.06 sign should not be allowed.

At the end of the day none of that matters, it APPEARS this is the result of a gun owner exhibiting negligent behavior with his firearm.....no amount of holstering, unholstering, reholstering or any other action will cause a discharge, pressing the trigger will. Whether or not the building should or shouldnt be 30.06 does not change that the gun 1. Never should have been pointed at someone he wasnt intending to destroy and 2. Never should have had the trigger pressed when it was not intended to be fired.

 

[Davetex]

I was thinking earlier that he had to have violated 3 of the 4 rules. Sad for sure. Prayers out for all involved.

 

[robertc1024]

He wouldn't be handling it inside the show - concealed is concealed, in theory anyway. He was forced to unload because of the 30.06 sign, which shouldn't have been posted to begin with.

I know what you're saying, and I specifically said in my post I am not advocating this. I'm just pointing out what the left would do if they were in "our" shoes and wanted something changed. It's always somebody else's fault. Read the comments on those articles linked above.

Not to get off track, but my feelings on the 30.06 posting at shows has always been that if we want people to be restricted from carrying inside a show, then that should be a statutory exception. Right now it's not, Cedar Park Center is a government owned building, and therefore a 30.06 sign should not be allowed.

This is pretty darn close to what I've been thinking.

 

[Anger]

probably about 100 other threads regarding 30.06 signs at gun shows. IMO we don't need another one.

 

[Dash Riprock]

probably about 100 other threads regarding 30.06 signs at gun shows. IMO we don't need another one.

I agree, we don't need another thread about whether or not gun shows in general should be posted and I apologize for starting down that trail earlier.

However, this particular show being posted may well be at least indirectly relevant to what happened here and that aspect of it needs to be discussed.

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

I wunder if franz made the long trip from Austin to SA in one piece in his new ghetto mobile. lol.

ha haaaaaaaa, 10-4 safe and sound Bigun....

 

[Anger]

Did y'all see the guy selling powder 40 bucks for a pound!!
I said nah I don't need it that bad.
Sent from the moon

Ya unfortunately we see that turd a lot. I wish that "fat-stinky johnny come lately price gouger" would go out of buisness. Buying items at retail to put on his table for more money. No thanks. People remember gougers. When the flow of powder loosens up, he's going to loose his arse because no one will spend a dime with him and his company.

 

[Anger]

ha haaaaaaaa, 10-4 safe and sound Bigun....

PS, nice haircut Greg.... under that cap, it looked like it STARTED at your beard. lol.

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

PS, nice haircut Greg.... under that cap, it looked like it STARTED at your beard. lol.

heck yeah Bigun........ready for summer

 

[LOCKHART]

cedar park gun show shooting

Has anyone posted anything on this forum about the accidental shooting
at the cedar park gun show, on Saturday? And does anyone know any
details? It kinda sounds like the fellow was putting his concealed weapon
back on, or loading it.

 

[AustinN4]

Man accidentally shoots, kills father-in-law at gun show
Man accidentally shoots, kills father-in-law at gun show

 

[majormadmax]

Already discussed in the thread on the show...

www.texasguntalk.com/forums/austin/59186-cedar-park-gun-show.html

 

[country_boy]

Saw a m1a new for 1100 that day. Good thing I'm holding out


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