Electric Vehicles here to stay, for good or bad?

[deemus]

That would make more sense.

 

[innominate]

You're too late, AOC already patented it.

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Lol. Someone at my work actually did that the other day.

 

[para_bellum]

I'm being told to turn off my AC during the summer months. I hope Tesla owners do their part and stop charging until Fall.

 

[pronstar]

Yeah, but I've been thinking about it ever since my post. I keep running up against the same problem. How do you find a general area where enough people are getting stranded often enough to make the business work?

EV drivers are careful to figure out where to find intermediate charging stations if they're on a long trip. The actual rate at which EV drivers are stranded is quite low. According to the surveys I've been able to find (Yes, I have been thinking about this since my post.) EVs tend to get stranded about every 100,000 to 500,000 miles driven. So it just doesn't happen very often.

Making a profit at that business would probably require finding some location where there is enough EV traffic but a paucity of charging stations. As soon as you found such a location, though, I'm sure someone would build a charging station.

It looks like the rig in the picture is doing it as a business but I can't figure out how.

It’s way more cost effective for an EV owner to just have AAA tow it to a charging station on a flatbed, methinks.

My Fiat 500e EV left me stranded exactly zero times. It only had an 80-ish mile range so trips were planned accordingly.


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[HKShooter65]

Follow-up from OP.

I started this thread when was thinking about buying (leasing actually) a high end Tesla-X.

I ended up buying the most un-tessla-like-vehicle in our proud Republic.
I bought a Ford F-250 King Ranch diesel optioned out to the max. Thank you Griffith Ford San Marcos!!!

I just, 2 days ago, got back from a 2,377 mile road trip breaking it in!!!
Went to my place in Colorado.

It's a freaking mobile 4 ton living room on wheels.
The Bang & Olufsen audio is the icing!
I traveled with my bride and my son and his bride and their 2 dogs. Room to spare.

A great trip.
Used about 2 gallons of DEF. No biggie.
Spent about $420 on diesel oil. (Apropos for CO?)

Same trip in a Tesla woulda' been a pain in the ass.
In big Ford iron it was a pleasure.

 

[txinvestigator]

There are many vehicles that don't compare to the F250 in terms of your use. The Model X as well as a Ford Explorer or BMW X5.

That said, the X compares well to those two vehicles.

I just took a 3600 mile road trip vacation in my 230i. A Tesla 3 or S would have been just as comfortable and kept up with my pace just the same. The difference, for me, was the ability to make a 10 or 11 hour day and make 1 stop for fuel that only took a few minutes to fill up.

I don't want to have to stop for the time required to recharge an electric vehicle at current rates of recharge

How many miles per tank can you get? I imagine you have to take bathroom/stretch breaks more often than fuel stops.

 

[striker55]

I noticed today Ford advertising the Mustang with a V8 motor. Up till today I've only seen the electric version. Have they noticed people still like horsepower? Maybe they are losing sales to muscle car Corvette or Camaro? Realizing you can't force people to buy what they don't want.

 

[kbaxter60]

Realizing you can't force people to buy what they don't want

Still. If they could scale back the limiter...

 

[Sam Colt]

Automakers are already quietly discussing the post-battery vehicle options. The battery model is a disaster.

David Bell, a management consultant, penned an interesting observation.

Battery powered electric vehicles are the new minidisc.

Obsolete before they even started.

The sheer amount of natural resources required to produce the batteries and motors alone make them unsustainable for the long term. Resources are finite. Extraction and refinement are horrifically energy intensive and environmentally destructive.

It’s the inconvenient truth that the motor industry is already whispering in the corridors, but there’s money to be made so they’re playing along.

 

[craigntx]

Bad for road trips

 

[Tnhawk]

Yep, the market will dictate when the change occurs.......I for one, will not give up fossil fuels for the foreseeable future......

Someday EV's will be less expensive to own and operate than a fossil fuel vehicle.....

A lot of Countries will find themselves looking for income from another source.....

Until the future arrives, I'll keep driving my Tacoma and Subaru for quite a few years.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Anyone thinking the world is getting out of O&G in the next 100 years is more bonkers than chicks on the upper right corner of the hot/crazy matrix.

 

[DoubleDuty]

I noticed today Ford advertising the Mustang with a V8 motor. Up till today I've only seen the electric version. Have they noticed people still like horsepower? Maybe they are losing sales to muscle car Corvette or Camaro? Realizing you can't force people to buy what they don't want.

Electric motors beat gas motors. The batteries are what holds them back from becoming totally useful.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Saw a drag race between electric Mustang GT, and Vette on YT.

Mustang batteries ONLY allow 5 seconds of full power, then it reduces output.
Can't even do a full power 1/4 mile run.

 

[Army 1911]

At one time in the early 1900s, 30% of cars were electric.

 

[striker55]

I'll never own one but then again I said I'd never own a plastic gun. Go figure.

 

[Wudidiz]

Electric quickness doesn’t trump the glorious sound of a V8 with Flowmasters.

 

[Fishkiller]

Electric vehicles may be the future, but it ain’t here yet. Solve the battery life issue, then battery mfg and disposal issue, then the grid/ supply issue. The internal combustion engine is still the most overall economical way to go

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Doesn't mean you need to own one but if that's how one rolls well we know all about that already.

 

[Sam Colt]

Capacitors and biofuel are next.