Get your foil helments out and let's take a look at this!

[Clockwork]

Bush also had the highest rating of all time as well and before him his father held that record. No socialist bastard has ever come close or ever will. Anyone can pull out crap to support their opinion.

Yes. One month after 9/11. Any idiot could have predicted that trend.

You know what his approval ratings did after that, though? Yeah. Worst ever. "No socialist bastard has ever come close or ever will," indeed.

The CURE for the Democratic Party is NOT the Republican Party! Both are corrupt, self serving and ineffective.

Well said.

 

[Wolfwood]

Not exactly. My Congressman, and for some of you Hustonians, is Ted Poe. He's a fine man. He has opposed every single Obummer crapola plan.

He is accessable, have seen him up close at a speaking engagement twice this year, he was taking all questions after his speech. He has Town Hall meetings, I don't have to go because I KNOW he's going to vote the right way. He's PRO-gun, PRO-life, and anti-tax. He's anti Obummer care.

He is fighting the border crapola with everything he's got.

I say don't get ALL the Bastards out of office. I know one who is not a Bastard.

(Guess I shouldn't be rubbing this in, some of you have Shelia Jackass Lee.)

i love watching that guy on c-span! a few months back he grilled the heck out of ol' Holder on the AZ thingy in the middle fo that crapstorm.
it was awesome

"You mean to tell me you havent even READ the bill?!?!"
"Uh... hmm.. uhmm.."
"It is ONLY ten pages!, I can read it aloud to you if you like."

i was ROLLING!


but yeah throw all the bastards out of office. most definatly.

(leave the guys like Paul and Poe)

 

[SiscoKid]

There are solutions to the problems of our nation but none of the simple fools in Washington DC can figure them out. Perhaps I can help............

ECONOMY: I would get our people to work.....period! I would employ every able bodied worker to improve our streets, bridges, lighting, rivers and towns. Every bit of filth, wall painting autograph, tag and piece of broken glass would be cleaned up. Every vacant lot would have a garden and every abandoned car, house and building removed. The Gulf coast would be spotless and a million trees would be planted. Money spent paying the workers would be a direct benefit to our nation and to the worker's families. What is so damned complicated about that? Meanwhile, our rulers vacation and play while our nation goes down the crapper and nothing is accomplished.

What the Hell is wrong with our leaders? None of the fools past or present are worth a flip! You guys suggest that one group is better than another. Frankly, they all suck!

Flash

Not exactly, Flash. It just don't work that way.

I recall when taking an American History class at Lamar Tech, the period from Reconstruction to the Present. The Prof was a sharp guy, not your typical liberal professor. I found out he was not a fan of FDR.

He started off saying he was going to teach the "political" aspect of American History. The causes and effects of say, WWI, was interesting. When he got to the WWII era he spent several days on FDR. Roosevelt won the election of 1932 with all kinds of promises (Hope and Change?). He then instituted all kinds of "Feel Good" programs, which did make the people feel better. Every kind of helping hand, shovel ready, build this, pave that, scheme put people to work, for awhile.

They were not the cure all for the country. In fact, unemployment in the 30's actually worsened. There were calls for FDR's head. Then he was handed a GIFT, Adolf Hitler. Even before our involvement in the war, we started producing Lend Lease equipment for Britain and other European countries. THAT is what actually pulled us out of the Great Depression.

By the time the war ramped up, we were outproducing the world. Everyone was working.

Need I say it? Government can NOT create lasting, fulfilling jobs. If it could or would, don't you think that $780 Billion Stimulus might have HELPED employment instead of HURTING it?

It's hard to argue with history. "History" can't come back with another post in this forum.

 

[ROGER4314]

I never suggested that a long term solution could be framed by the government but as the WPA type projects progressed, materials would be ordered and other segments of the economy would be stimulated. That couldn't hurt. Meanwhile, folks are losing their homes and their kids are starving. Let's do SOMETHING even if it's wrong!

Flash

 

[West Texas]

Not exactly, Flash. It just don't work that way.

I recall when taking an American History class at Lamar Tech, the period from Reconstruction to the Present. The Prof was a sharp guy, not your typical liberal professor. I found out he was not a fan of FDR.

He started off saying he was going to teach the "political" aspect of American History. The causes and effects of say, WWI, was interesting. When he got to the WWII era he spent several days on FDR. Roosevelt won the election of 1932 with all kinds of promises (Hope and Change?). He then instituted all kinds of "Feel Good" programs, which did make the people feel better. Every kind of helping hand, shovel ready, build this, pave that, scheme put people to work, for awhile.

They were not the cure all for the country. In fact, unemployment in the 30's actually worsened. There were calls for FDR's head. Then he was handed a GIFT, Adolf Hitler. Even before our involvement in the war, we started producing Lend Lease equipment for Britain and other European countries. THAT is what actually pulled us out of the Great Depression.

By the time the war ramped up, we were outproducing the world. Everyone was working.

Need I say it? Government can NOT create lasting, fulfilling jobs. If it could or would, don't you think that $780 Billion Stimulus might have HELPED employment instead of HURTING it?

It's hard to argue with history. "History" can't come back with another post in this forum.

+!

Those who fail to study history or doomed to repeat it....and doing the same thing the same way and expecting a different result really is insane...

Or, as I like to paraphrase PT Barnum....you can fool a lot of the people some of the time, and that is enough for liberals to keep getting elected....

 

[Texan2]

Let's do SOMETHING even if it's wrong!
Flash

What?????!!!!! Do it even if its wrong? That is exactly what Obama is preaching. Do this, spend that....even if its wrong at least we are doing something? That is BS my friend.
When you find yourself in a hole, step #1 is to quit digging.....

 

[SiscoKid]

WT said....

Or, as I like to paraphrase PT Barnum....you can fool a lot of the people some of the time, and that is enough for liberals to keep getting elected...

I 'bout swallowed my gum laughing so hard.

Do I have your permission to use that as my signature?

 

[West Texas]

What?????!!!!! Do it even if its wrong? That is exactly what Obama is preaching. do this, spend that....even if its worng at least we are doing something? That is BS my friend.
When you find yourself in a hole, step #1 is to quit digging.....

NO NO NO NO NO....

Step #1 is find SOMEONE ELSE TO BLAME FOR THE HOLE
Step #2 is to keep digging to see if you can reach the other END of the hole...

Have you not been listening to The Annointed One at ALL?

 

[wrtanker]

I keep seeing people quoting approval ratings as measures of how good a president is. Approval ratings are nothing more than the herd's opinion of the man. They have nothing to do with how well he is actually doing the job or how good or bad the impact of his actions are. Being human, no president is perfect. They all make mistakes, just like the rest of us. I never had a problem with President Bush. He made mistakes but I know he always had the best interests of America at heart. I'm not so sure about what is happening these days.

 

[Clockwork]

That's a nice sentiment.

In a fantasy world.

In the real world approval ratings affect elections and Bush's failures in office are exactly how Obama got elected in the first place.

 

[Texan2]

That's a nice sentiment.

In a fantasy world.

In the real world approval ratings affect elections and Bush's failures in office are exactly how Obama got elected in the first place.

Correct, but they are still not indicative of how good a president one is.

 

[ROGER4314]

Flash What?????!!!!! Do it even if its wrong? That is exactly what Obama is preaching. Do this, spend that....even if its wrong at least we are doing something? That is BS my friend.
When you find yourself in a hole, step #1 is to quit digging.....

OK, I think I understand. Don't put our people to work on civic projects because that may go south and instead.....do nothing. Perfect. Then we stick our thumbs up our butts. That makes us qualified candidates to be US Senators and Representatives!

Flash

 

[West Texas]

WT said....



I 'bout swallowed my gum laughing so hard.

Do I have your permission to use that as my signature?

You and Skeeter are going to owe me big time...go far it!

 

[Texan2]

OK, I think I understand. Don't put our people to work on civic projects because that may go south and instead.....do nothing. Perfect. Then we stick our thumbs up our butts. That makes us qualified candidates to be US Senators and Representatives!

Flash

I reviewed my post and cant find where I said not to do anything.....What I DID say was if you know it is wrong DONT do it anyway.

More social programs? More people working for the government? Where do you think the money to pay them comes from? More stimulus and government projects is exactly what we DONT need. Have you yet to realize that putting the Federal government in charge of just about anything is a recipe for failure?
How bout we do what actually works? REDUCE, not increase Federal spending, cut bloated Federal handouts, abolish the IRS, lower taxes so small businesses can grow, let local government decide whats best for the people of their area. The less DC touches something the better it will work.

 

[texas skeeter]

You and Skeeter are going to owe me big time...go far it!

I dont owe you sh-t!! and after all you stood me up!! sniff,sniff.......

 

[West Texas]

I reviewed my post and cant find where I said not to do anything.....What I DID say was if you know it is wrong DONT do it anyway.

More social programs? More people working for the government? Where do you think the money to pay them comes from? More stimulus and government projects is exactly what we DONT need. Have you yet to realize that putting the Federal government in charge of just about anything is a recipe for failure?
How bout we do what actually works? REDUCE, not increase Federal spending, cut bloated Federal handouts, abolish the IRS, lower taxes so small businesses can grow, let local government decide whats best for the people of their area. The less DC touches something the better it will work.

+1

The answer is LESS Government, not more. Put the money back in the hands of the people, and we will create jobs, and buy things and help each other in the process.

The Government never created ONE JOB that CREATED income and wealth....INDIVIDUALS do that...the Government survies by taking what I created.

 

[ROGER4314]

Any money spent on a civic project is an investment in OUR nation.

I suggest we divert some of the funds given to the snotty recipients who take from us then curse us. I would simply tell those nations: "Curse us and you lose our help." "Help our enemies and you become our enemy." "This help is contingent upon your support for the USA."

It's pretty simple, really. We just need to grow some balls then look our for our own nation and our friends. Anyone in another category can kiss off.

Flash

 

[Texan2]

Any money spent on a civic project is an investment in OUR nation.

Flash

An investment that we have to borrow from the Chinese or Russians to pay for....an investment that my grandchildren will be straddled with paying back.
No, I am afraid I dont want anymore "investment" (from the government) unless you can tell me where the money is coming from first.

In no way do I want to offend you, but your post sounds like something straight from the Obama administration..."If we just spend more money, on more projects, we can spend our way out of our problems."

Sorry....doesnt work that way. What we should have done was let banks fail....let GM and Chrysler go bankrupt (which they did anyway even after our stimulus). Let the unprofitable sink, its how capitalism works. If you prop up businesses that have a bad business model (i.e. American car companies) there is no reason to run them correctly. Unions can cry all they want. If the business that a union worker works for goes under and locks the door, how does that help them?
Less government means more success for the american worker and businessman.

 

[texas skeeter]

What we should have done was let banks fail....let GM and Chrysler go bakrupt (which they did anyway even after our stimulus). Let the unprofitable sink, its how capitalism works.

YOU hit that nail on the head!!! and after they failed and closed their doors, all the companies that ran a "Successful" business plan could have reaped the reward of picking up the new customers!!!! Oh and **** the car Unions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREEDY THUGS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[M. Sage]

That's a nice sentiment.

In a fantasy world.

In the real world approval ratings affect elections and Bush's failures in office are exactly how Obama got elected in the first place.

Are you actually contending that Obama wasn't elected on personality cult and herd stupidity?

If you put so much stock in approval ratings, I'd like to point out again that in this point in his presidency, Bush enjoyed 20 points over what Obama has right now. A month before 9/11. So feel free to rate a president by approval ratings. But try to compare apples to apples. Approval ratings tend to drop at the end of a lame duck term. Obama's approval is pretty bad for this early in a first (and last, hopefully) term.