Glaser rounds

[Younggun]

Know where you should and shouldn't shoot, lay out your furniture to take advantage of those places and get any quality SD ammo and practice.

 

[ROGER4314]

Why anybody who thinks that a round that (even supposedly) can't go through sheetrock will stop an attacker is beyond me. Am I the only one here that's punched a hole in a wall?

And, in contrast, I've put .357 magnums through 13 sheets of plywood which carries a projectile easily beyond next door. If you don't like them....don't buy them. I don't use them any more as I've changed to a semi auto and don't trust them without shooting a lot of them.

For an apartment dweller, I vote for a shotgun with birdshot. The guys will piss on that idea but I've loaded birdshot and buckshot for years and blasted about everything known to man with it. At 10-15 feet it's insanely destructive but it carries and penetrates little.

Flash

 

[Pyrogenic]

Right - shot is great, but the idea is the single punch through clothing and skin, with the poly ball up front, then wide dispersal if shot in multiple directions. In 1-3 inches, you can punch holes in almost all organs, lungs, heart, etc... More likely to puncture arteries, ligaments, etc in fewer shots. I like the idea how this works. Massive bleeding drops perps better than a non- critical hole...

 

[txinvestigator]

Right - shot is great, but the idea is the single punch through clothing and skin, with the poly ball up front, then wide dispersal if shot in multiple directions. In 1-3 inches, you can punch holes in almost all organs, lungs, heart, etc... More likely to puncture arteries, ligaments, etc in fewer shots. I like the idea how this works. Massive bleeding drops perps better than a non- critical hole...

Glasers do terrible against people. The 3 inches of penetratiin is in gel.

You should do some research. You are fooling yourself.

 

[Younggun]

Most of what you just said is incorrect as it pertains to reaching vitals.

When it comes to the heart and lungs there are a lot of bones in the way that are going to put the breaks on it pretty quick.

Even in softer area like the stomach I don't see them penetrating the muscles to do any real damage.

Now think about someone with a heavy build and a jacket, you just pissed him off.

 

[txinvestigator]

If these things suck what is a good home defense round for a 45 in an apartment?

There are no magic bullets that can incapacitate a person and will not go thru walls. Hollowpoints and training.

 

[Pyrogenic]

Um the research put it at 7.8 inches in gel ?? Or did I read that wrong?

Hey I'm not taking it personal, nor do I hope you are... I've never shot a human with it. My brother, however, a ballistics expert has a lot of positive things to say about it...

 

[scap99]

Most of what you just said is incorrect as it pertains to reaching vitals.

When it comes to the heart and lungs there are a lot of bones in the way that are going to put the breaks on it pretty quick.

Even in softer area like the stomach I don't see them penetrating the muscles to do any real damage.

Now think about someone with a heavy build and a jacket, you just pissed him off.

With bird shot and the safety slugs.

 

[Pyrogenic]

They have the heavier version too for what they call colder climates where you expect heavier clothing..

 

[Younggun]

Looks to me like it lacks penetration and goes right through Sheetrock.

 

[txinvestigator]

Looks to me like it lacks penetration and goes right through Sheetrock.

Glaser Blue Safety Slug - YouTube

Yep. All it takes is a little research.

 

[txinvestigator]

Um the research put it at 7.8 inches in gel ?? Or did I read that wrong?

Hey I'm not taking it personal, nor do I hope you are... I've never shot a human with it. My brother, however, a ballistics expert has a lot of positive things to say about it...

Rofl. Define "ballistics expert". Riddle me this, Batman. If Glaser are the shit, why are no LE agencies using them, no Security Companies authorizing them, and everyone here telling you they suck?

 

[Pyrogenic]

Lol - getting too emotionally charged... But it's not a LEO round. Nor an investigator or otherwise. As I understand it, it's a specific design to minimize likelihood of accidents in close quarters around others. It's certainly a sacrifice as I see it but trying to balance power with safety.

 

[Younggun]

This makes me want to build my own "box of truth".

 

[Younggun]

I will also point out that the rounds design minimizes the likelihood it will stop an attacker.

 

[Pyrogenic]

And as far as my brother he's a professional weapons and shooting trainer, as well as an expert marksman. He knows a little...

Otherwise, it's clear there's no perfect round, including these...

 

[Pyrogenic]

And is interesting to think about all these perspectives.

 

[Younggun]

And as far as my brother he's a professional weapons and shooting trainer, as well as an expert marksman. He knows a little...

Otherwise, it's clear there's no perfect round, including these...

Marksmanship is a great skill, however marksmanship and terminal ballistics are to completely different animals.

 

[Pyrogenic]

Of course...

 

[txinvestigator]

Lol - getting too emotionally charged... But it's not a LEO round. Nor an investigator or otherwise. As I understand it, it's a specific design to minimize likelihood of accidents in close quarters around others. It's certainly a sacrifice as I see it but trying to balance power with safety.

It does not reduce accidents, it easily passes through sheetrock, and it does not penetrate enough to incapacitate. How do you see that as any advantage?

Why would I want to carry a round law enforcement would not carry? Also, founded not answer me. Define ballistics expert. Explain why no agency who goes into harms way would use Glaser. Even trigger Air Marshals don't.