He Who Hesitates...Or Why I Should Have Bought an M1 Carbine 15 Years Ago

[rl96ss]

Be careful. Carbines are addictive. You get your first one (a Saginaw for example) and then you want an Inland, then a Winchester, then an IBM. Then you start to consider paying big bucks for an original M1A1 stock. Next you see an National Postal Meter at a show and have to bring it home....

That roads looks familiar.
Believe I've been on it, several times.

 

[satx78247]

That roads looks familiar.
Believe I've been on it, several times.

rl96ss,

Having NUMEROUS "enablers" on the forum does NOT help us "addicts" either. = CHUCKLE.

Being addicted to buying double rifles & combination guns is as addictive as "dope" & may well be about as expensive.

yours, satx

 

[SQLGeek]

Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range

Just what you see pal.

 

[Moonpie]

Why hasn’t OP posted pics of his M1 carbine?

So. Much. Fail.

 

[Hoji]

Why hasn’t OP posted pics of his M1 carbine?

So. Much. Fail.

Why hasn’t Moonpie told us what jumper cables work best for pompano fishing?

 

[Moonpie]

Why hasn’t Moonpie told us what jumper cables work best for pompano fishing?

Because I have never even HEARD OF using jumper cables for pompano fishing.
Is that some kind of a Mustang Ridge redneck thing?

 

[Hoji]

Because I have never even HEARD OF using jumper cables for pompano fishing.
Is that some kind of a Mustang Ridge redneck thing?

 

[satx78247]

Why hasn’t OP posted pics of his M1 carbine?

So. Much. Fail.

Moonpie

Maybe he knows as little about cameras & posting photos as I do, as in ZILCH.

yours, satx

 

[SQLGeek]

Why hasn’t OP posted pics of his M1 carbine?

So. Much. Fail.

Because OP's "free and clear" gun money was absconded with. At least I got the Model 28 I guess.

 

[baboon]

Asian carp eradication

 

[Moonpie]

Because OP's "free and clear" gun money was absconded with. At least I got the Model 28 I guess.

pics or GTFO

 

[satx78247]

Asian carp eradication

baboon,

I'd bet that Asian carp make GREAT fertilizer and/or fish meal & perhaps even enough profits from the sale to cover the cost of eradication.

yours, satx

 

[SQLGeek]

pics or GTFO

Pretty sure I posted them already but I could use an excuse to do so again.

 

[baboon]

baboon,

I'd bet that Asian carp make GREAT fertilizer and/or fish meal & perhaps even enough profits from the sale to cover the cost of eradication.

yours, satx

Dumbasses need to figure out something to do about it.

 

[zackmars]

zackmars,

May I suggest that you go read the comments of Naa'teh in post # 52 of this thread, who is one of the USA's greatest living heroes of the Korean War?
(The Chief holds EVERY decoration for bravery in combat, except the MOH. -He was twice recommended for the MOH. - Once for destroying a Chinese T34 & once for destroying a NK machinegun emplacement, while wounded.)

The Chief told me in 2018 that the M1 & M2 carbines would NOT stop the fierce/stalwart warriors of North Korea or of Red China, even at pointblank range of 10-20 yards.
ADDENDA: After Naa'teh returned to CONUS in late 1953 on convalescent leave (He had been WIA 5 times in one day in September 1953. = he is the only living person to have been awarded SEVEN PURPLE HEARTS.), he was assigned as a weapons instructor at Ft Bragg, NC.

Had the US Carbine been chambered in .401 WSL caliber (Winchester offered the cartridge to the USA for FREE), the carbine would be equal in stopping power to the 7.62x51NATO, in a much smaller case out to 150M.
(In .401 caliber the M1/M2 carbine would have weighed FOUR OUNCES MORE than the .30 carbine.)

yours, satx

Audie Murphy seemed pretty happy with them.

The carbine is not a good host for full auto, it climbs like crazy, add it in a longer range fight like much of Korea was, gee, i wonder why it doesn't have the best reputation. All cartridges have envelopes, what makes, say, .30-06 great at longer range, means its less than optimal for close up. Same for .30 carbine. There is no free lunch.

Compared to a .45acp smg, .30 carbine is superior. It is easier to shoot at longer ranges, has superior terminal ballistics, weighs less...

We are not talking about the Garand here, so i am not sure why you bring it up.

 

[satx78247]

Audie Murphy seemed pretty happy with them.

The carbine is not a good host for full auto, it climbs like crazy, add it in a longer range fight like much of Korea was, gee, i wonder why it doesn't have the best reputation. All cartridges have envelopes, what makes, say, .30-06 great at longer range, means its less than optimal for close up. Same for .30 carbine. There is no free lunch.

Compared to a .45acp smg, .30 carbine is superior. It is easier to shoot at longer ranges, has superior terminal ballistics, weighs less...

We are not talking about the Garand here, so i am not sure why you bring it up.

zackmars,

I brought up the Garand, as you likely understand, because of what my friend Naa'teh said after saying that the .30 carbine was "nearly worthless" & then "picked-up" a Garand to continue his fight against the Chinese.

yours, satx

 

[zackmars]

zackmars,

I brought up the Garand, as you likely understand, because of what my friend Naa'teh said after saying that the .30 carbine was "nearly worthless" & then "picked-up" a Garand to continue his fight against the Chinese.

yours, satx

So wait, a poster asked about the m1/m2 carbine vs other SMG's of the era, and you bring up the Garand?

It has nothing to do with this conversation.

No one is comparing the carbine to the Garand, but we are comparing the carbine to the Thompson and M3.


And the Thompson and M3 are very much lacking

 

[V-Tach]

We all have stories....

A friend of mine who fought in Korea......carried an M1 carbine instead of a Garand.........said it saved his life more than once.....

It was lighter than a Garand and easier to carry while packing his flame thrower..........yes that was his primary mission.....a very humble, mild mannered man with balls of steel..........

 

[Moonpie]

This thread needs more pictures of M1 Carbines.

 

[Hoji]

When my dad was an Alabama State Trooper in the 60’s he was issued a M2. He liked it well enough but felt that it did not have enough “punch” for something fired off the shoulder.

It was fired indoors once ( full auto mag dump)at an illegal drinking establishment to great effect at a jukebox. Compliance was had and all patrons exited the establishment and went home( or at least went somewhere else)