Petition For Open Carry

[recordingwhiz]

Agree with the stop arguing sentiment, and help fix it.

 

[dondavis3]

I've heard the reasons for open carry.

But I'm not for it.

I'd rather no one know I am carrying.

JMHO

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

I've heard the reasons for open carry.

But I'm not for it.

I'd rather no one know I am carrying.

JMHO

You're not for it legally or personally?

 

[dondavis3]

Personally.

If it were legal I would not do it.

 

[Aj Weaver]

Personally.

If it were legal I would not do it.

I can respect that. It is a personnel choice and if you don't feel comfortable that is fair. I personally choose to carry openly every chance I get. I don't feel as comfortable carrying concealed as I do openly. Given the choice I will ALWAYS carry openly. So I can understand and respect your position.

 

[Renegade]

Personally.

If it were legal I would not do it.

Very few do. I have lived OC states and never seen a single person OC. But I have seen plenty of fanny packs.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Personally.

If it were legal I would not do it.

I get that. I would not do it often. But no one should be able to put me in jail if I chose to either.

 

[smtimelevi]

I get that. I would not do it often. But no one should be able to put me in jail if I chose to either.

This^.

We live in the United States of America, not the peoples republic of timid soccer moms. We need to stop allowing people that have a severe bias towards guns and related activities make the rules of use and carry for us.

 

[itchin]

Very few do. I have lived OC states and never seen a single person OC. But I have seen plenty of fanny packs.

Living in an open carry state most of my life, I have seen open carriers almost daily. It is a normal everyday thing in New Mexico.

 

[Renegade]

Living in an open carry state most of my life, I have seen open carriers almost daily. It is a normal everyday thing in New Mexico.

Never saw one in NM, but did not spend much time there. I was referencing VA, AZ, PA.

 

[Renegade]

Found this gem on another site:

If Zimmerman were open carrying, Trayvon would have left him alone. CCW is a surprise, a nasty surprise, to criminals.

 

[Kyle]

Ok, I am not going to open up a new thread for this, but since it is somewhat on topic Ill ask it here if someone can come up with an answer.

Correct me if I am mistaken, but please do not do so in the fashion that seems to have taken over this thread...

If I get pulled over, why am I required to tell the officer I have a gun in the car/on me if I am a CHL holder, but I don't have to speak a word of it if I have it in my car without the CHL? Is this just a rip in the seam or what?

 

[smtimelevi]

No declaration required any longer. Ive herd its common courtesy to hand them your CHL along with license. It may get you off with a warning as well but this is just a rumor. I've never experienced it myself.

 

[Kyle]

No declaration required any longer. Ive herd its common courtesy to hand them your CHL along with license. It may get you off with a warning as well but this is just a rumor. I've never experienced it myself.

I was just reading that on a different forum.

I don't have my chl, not really interested in getting it. I don't go anywhere and I live in a retirement town.. The reason I asked is when my dad got his chl a few years ago, the instructor told him, "when you get pulled over, place the weapon on the dash along with your chl license and place your hands on the wheel"... To me, this might make an officer's butt pucker, seeing someone fiddling with a gun, while running plates. He never subscribed to the idea, but went along with it to appease the instructor. Between that, and reading different forums on the subject, there was no real clear cut answer which drew my question.

 

[Bithabus]

I was just reading that on a different forum.

I don't have my chl, not really interested in getting it. I don't go anywhere and I live in a retirement town.. The reason I asked is when my dad got his chl a few years ago, the instructor told him, "when you get pulled over, place the weapon on the dash along with your chl license and place your hands on the wheel"... To me, this might make an officer's butt pucker, seeing someone fiddling with a gun, while running plates. He never subscribed to the idea, but went along with it to appease the instructor. Between that, and reading different forums on the subject, there was no real clear cut answer which drew my question.

That's horrible advice. That instructor should not be teaching.

The answer is that there is still a rule in the Gov code which requires CHL holders to present the CHL when ID is demanded, but the Legislature removed all penalties in 2009 because it was ridiculous for CHL holders to be required to disclose when non CHL holders did not have to.

 

[matefrio]

I was just reading that on a different forum.

I don't have my chl, not really interested in getting it. I don't go anywhere and I live in a retirement town.. The reason I asked is when my dad got his chl a few years ago, the instructor told him, "when you get pulled over, place the weapon on the dash along with your chl license and place your hands on the wheel"... To me, this might make an officer's butt pucker, seeing someone fiddling with a gun, while running plates. He never subscribed to the idea, but went along with it to appease the instructor. Between that, and reading different forums on the subject, there was no real clear cut answer which drew my question.

That advice will get someone shot.

 

[shooterfpga]

That advice will get someone shot.

geez no kidding. wtf

Sent from my FD05 SPH-D710

 

[Renegade]

If I get pulled over, why am I required to tell the officer I have a gun in the car/on me if I am a CHL holder, but I don't have to speak a word of it if I have it in my car without the CHL? Is this just a rip in the seam or what?

You are required to inform because that is how the CHL law was setup years ago.

Then along came the Motorist Protection Act, and those non-CHLs were not required to inform, since they did not have a license to begin with.

Then the silliness of this was pointed out, and in their infinite wisdom, the Texas Legislature decided to remove the penalty for failing to inform, instead of removing the requirement to inform. So now we are left with this silly situation where you still must inform, but failure to do so carries no penalty.

 

[Kyle]

That's horrible advice. That instructor should not be teaching.

The answer is that there is still a rule in the Gov code which requires CHL holders to present the CHL when ID is demanded, but the Legislature removed all penalties in 2009 because it was ridiculous for CHL holders to be required to disclose when non CHL holders did not have to.

That is what I wasn't understanding, glad they straightened that out a bit.

That advice will get someone shot.

You aren't kidding... My dad was just perplexed by the notion... He took the class with several friends and everyone else left with the same thoughts my dad had. It absolutely makes no sense.

 

[Kyle]

You are required to inform because that is how the CHL law was setup years ago.

Then along came the Motorist Protection Act, and those non-CHLs were not required to inform, since they did not have a license to begin with.

Then the silliness of this was pointed out, and in their infinite wisdom, the Texas Legislature decided to remove the penalty for failing to inform, instead of removing the requirement to inform. So now we are left with this silly situation where you still must inform, but failure to do so carries no penalty.

Bunch of brain-dead know-it-alls. Is being devoid of common sense a prerequisite to run for any sort of government position.