Red dot on a pistol - jury is still out

[jwales]

Do y’all think we are getting to a point where red-dot ready slide cuts will be standard on handguns?

Personally, I have never used a red dot on a handgun, but am starting to get intrigued by them. Right now, all of mt handguns do not have the option but have been looking at Canik, and this does appear to be on all of their firearms.

Ken

Undoubtedly, yes.

 

[Rapt'r223]

Threaded barrels on bolt and lever guns are illegal in some states??? I thiught it was just semi autos in gay states like ny nj ca

I can speak for one state, CA, threads on rifles are ok. Flash hiders in certain configurations are not... ‍. Threads on pistols are a no go... At least that's what it was 3.5 years ago.

 

[Fletcherjl]

I have hit the point in life that I will not carry a pistol without a MRDS and I prefer the trijicon rmr or rmr cc over all of them. Suppressor height sights and I am super happy with them.

 

[TexMex247]

I was a mediocre shot with my pdp until I started fingertipping the trigger. No dots on any of my pistols except 22s. I tend to use the crease of my trigger finger for my other guns when running them on steel. My target transitions seems better and double taps are tighter but like most of us I own too many pistols and they all shoot a little different. I don't think I'm ready to retrain myself with more red dots yet on combat pistols.

I see the advantages of them but I've also seen them cheap ones die or literally fly off my friends guns.

 

[seeker_two]

Do y’all think we are getting to a point where red-dot ready slide cuts will be standard on handguns?

When they standardize on a footprint without the plates, yes.

 

[westly]

RDS in a real world close quarters situation god forbid would not be ideal. Other than that they're great.

 

[zackmars]

RDS in a real world close quarters situation god forbid would not be ideal. Other than that they're great.

The most effective style of sight for CQB isn't ideal for CQB? Or am i missing something?

 

[baboon]

I would do it if the pistol was factory cut for it. Cant see going out & modifying a pistol for it.

 

[Sasquatch]

RDS in a real world close quarters situation god forbid would not be ideal. Other than that they're great.

This make zero sense - you target focus with a red dot - not focusing on the dot like you would a front sight. Dot gets superimposed over what you want to hit. If you're semi-competent with gun handling and your shit is zero'd, you're going to put rounds where you want them. Even with the shakes from being amped up and under stress, your more likely to make good hits than you would focusing on a sharp front sight with a blurred target focus. Anything beyond contact distance should be sighted fire.

 

[cycleguy2300]

RDS in a real world close quarters situation god forbid would not be ideal. Other than that they're great.

Sorry, but that an ignorant statement.

A RDS is easier and faster to pickup than irons (there is a learning curve) and in a CQB you don't have time to look at Iron sights while you DO have the chance to see the dot floating in the box.

RDS meets of exceeds the abilities of iron sights in absolutely every area with getting rounds onto the target.

I can RAPIDLY put my rounds into a 3x5 index card at 7yd after a little "exercise". I've seen, done and helped run this drill MANY times and RDS ALWAYS come out on top.

Under 7yd you're probably going to be instinctively shooting and not looking at sights. If your foundations are sound the dot will be visible and get you fast and accurate shots.

If all you do is flat range and slow fire for "groups" you'll be behind the curve anyway in a CQB environment with any weapon. Take a RDS class, you'll be blown away at how fast and accurate you can be.

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[A1Oni]

RDS in a real world close quarters situation god forbid would not be ideal. Other than that they're great.

this is the most braindead fucking thing I have laid my astigmatic eyes on, a red dot is perfect for the so called combat pistol due to the simple fact you put the dot on the poor sap who decided their life was worth the 2 cents and pocket lint in your wallet.

the future is now old man.

 

[A1Oni]

Sorry, but that an ignorant statement.

A RDS is easier and faster to pickup than irons (there is a learning curve) and in a CQB you don't have time to look at Iron sights while you DO have the chance to see the dot floating in the box.

RDS meets of exceeds the abilities of iron sights in absolutely every area with getting rounds onto the target.

I can RAPIDLY put my rounds into a 3x5 index card at 7yd after a little "exercise". I've seen, done and helped run this drill MANY times and RDS ALWAYS come out on top.

Under 7yd you're probably going to be instinctively shooting and not looking at sights. If your foundations are sound the dot will be visible and get you fast and accurate shots.

If all you do is flat range and slow fire for "groups" you'll be behind the curve anyway in a CQB environment with any weapon. Take a RDS class, you'll be blown away at how fast and accurate you can be.

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if you have time to point a gun, you have time to aim.

 

[A1Oni]

I would do it if the pistol was factory cut for it. Cant see going out & modifying a pistol for it.

a lot of common handguns have options for cut slides or ones with optics pre installed

 

[safestuffer]

I've never used an RDS but I went and picked up a Sig X5 just to have something to mount a RDS on to see if the hype is real. I'll have the RDS here in a week, and we'll see if I like it or not. If I don't, someone else will.

 

[Big Green]

I would do it if the pistol was factory cut for it. Cant see going out & modifying a pistol for it.

I can, had one done and several more just need to be sent off.

I like the red dot behind the sights.