ROUND COUNT & WHAT SHOULD I LOOK OUT FOR IN A SEMI?

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    Hey guys,
    Starting to look for a good used pistol. What is the norm and what should I run away from when I hear it? Looking at 9mm Sigs & CZ based on what I've been reading. Throwing this out there and I'll be back later today. Thanks in advance
    Always learning........
     

    kyletxria1911a1

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    I got my Springer used it had 2.500 in it if put another 15k in the pipe. Just changed out the springs. Clean repeat.
    Imho if it looks good no dremel marks,etc, buy it run it hot enjoy. Not like cars they were made to run hard.
    Some guy I know have a 100k in the pipe and it's a edc..
     

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    I run away from Jennings, Raven, Jimenez, Hi Point.

    Should be pretty safe with Sig and CZ unless there's obvious signs of abuse. Rusted out parts, cracked slides or frames, bulged barrels etc...
     

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    I am a 1911 guy. I have at least 16 currently. I have a Stainless Springfield "Loaded Target" in 45 ACP that has over 30K rounds down the pipe. Change the springs and the oil and one will last you a looooong time.
    I have six CZ's. I prefer the P-10c, but the P-07 is a close second. I have a FDE Sig 320. It is okay, but it sits a little high in my hand.

    I highly recommend you go to a gun store and fondle a few so you can find something that feels good in your hand. Then go to a range that has guns to rent. Try out what you like. If it don't fit your hand, you will never enjoy shooting it.
    Plus it will keep you from ending up like me. My pistol collection amounts to about 30 items. How many do I still shoot, maybe 5 or 6.
     

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    Do you have an idea of what you want? Not what the yahoo behind the counter says you need. Is it for E.D.C.? Is it a truck gun, or a range toy? Is it strictly for a nightstand/home defense gun? As with everything, new or used, every item has a purpose.

    Generally speaking, Sig, CZ, Glock, Springfield, S&W and most Ruger hold up well. Some lemons in every barrel, of course. Take a look for obvious signs of abuse and home done gunsmithing. As stated before, dremel marks where there shouldn't be any, cuts or cracks in the slide or frame that shouldn't be there, missing or obvious loose pieces parts that ain't supposed to be. Check the fit of parts as best you can, and if possible, do a basic field strip to get a look inside and at the barrel. While springs and sights are important, they can be changed out relatively quickly and inexpensively, depending.

    As for round count, that's debatable. I've talked to folks and heard of guns that'll go 100k+ rounds before finally being put out to pasture. I've also heard of the same thing happening to 'em with less than 1k rounds. I had a Stoeger of the latter variety once (and never again will I buy another firearm from that company), and I've got a Glock that will most likely outlive me. Sure, the springs will eventually wear out, but as said above, that's little stuff. And quite often you can feel things like that before they fail on you at the worst time. And like an oil change on the truck, that's preventative maintenance.

    So, in essence, stick with the major brands, find what you want, look it over as best you can, and if it fits you, run with it.
     

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    Do you have an idea of what you want? Not what the yahoo behind the counter says you need. Is it for E.D.C.? Is it a truck gun, or a range toy? Is it strictly for a nightstand/home defense gun? As with everything, new or used, every item has a purpose.

    Generally speaking, Sig, CZ, Glock, Springfield, S&W and most Ruger hold up well. Some lemons in every barrel, of course. Take a look for obvious signs of abuse and home done gunsmithing. As stated before, dremel marks where there shouldn't be any, cuts or cracks in the slide or frame that shouldn't be there, missing or obvious loose pieces parts that ain't supposed to be. Check the fit of parts as best you can, and if possible, do a basic field strip to get a look inside and at the barrel. While springs and sights are important, they can be changed out relatively quickly and inexpensively, depending.

    As for round count, that's debatable. I've talked to folks and heard of guns that'll go 100k+ rounds before finally being put out to pasture. I've also heard of the same thing happening to 'em with less than 1k rounds. I had a Stoeger of the latter variety once (and never again will I buy another firearm from that company), and I've got a Glock that will most likely outlive me. Sure, the springs will eventually wear out, but as said above, that's little stuff. And quite often you can feel things like that before they fail on you at the worst time. And like an oil change on the truck, that's preventative maintenance.

    So, in essence, stick with the major brands, find what you want, look it over as best you can, and if it fits you, run with it.
    But as long as frame is good you can change bbl's and rebuild it and keep ok keeping on right?
     

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    In the early eighties when my unit was at the range for training, I noticed a crack on the 1911 I had been issued and was cleaning. When I took back up to the cage to return and report it, the Petty Officer told me with a wink and a smirk that it wasn't that old. Only a Vietnam issue sidearm. With the wear and tear it had, I'm thinking it was a lot more like WWI issue. No telling how many thousands, or millions of rounds had been fired through it.

    Just keep replacing parts until it cain't be fixed no mo
     
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    ...and I've got a Glock that will most likely outlive me. Sure, the springs will eventually wear out, but as said above, that's little stuff.

    Indeed. I've got a 1942 Walther P.38 that I can absolutely guarantee you will be good for another 75 years at least. Round count? Who knows? Also, I have no idea how people keep track of how many rounds they've fired through their guns. I pack up my guns and accessories, on the way to the range the range bag weighs a ton and on the way back home I can almost lift it easily with one hand.

    The only gun I've ever had that was worn out was a Mauser C-96 from around 1920. That one rattled like a baby rattle when you shook it, the bore was smooth and free of any rifling, it was all mixed and matched parts, the finish was gone, it had been refinished at some time and THAT finish was gone. Eventually traded it for a Walther PPK that's 50 years newer.
     

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    Indeed. I've got a 1942 Walther P.38 that I can absolutely guarantee you will be good for another 75 years at least. Round count? Who knows? Also, I have no idea how people keep track of how many rounds they've fired through their guns. I pack up my guns and accessories, on the way to the range the range bag weighs a ton and on the way back home I can almost lift it easily with one hand.

    The only gun I've ever had that was worn out was a Mauser C-96 from around 1920. That one rattled like a baby rattle when you shook it, the bore was smooth and free of any rifling, it was all mixed and matched parts, the finish was gone, it had been refinished at some time and THAT finish was gone. Eventually traded it for a Walther PPK that's 50 years newer.
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    Ir it rattles take it to battle. My Springer is 20+ yrs. My edc.. my motto is run it till the wheels fall off.
    Inspect replace repeat....
     

    LaVbRef

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    Hey guys,
    Starting to look for a good used pistol. What is the norm and what should I run away from when I hear it? Looking at 9mm Sigs & CZ based on what I've been reading. Throwing this out there and I'll be back later today. Thanks in advance
    Always learning........

    I know enough to notice and eliminate the obvious stuff like rusted, cracked frames, broken and missing parts but almost every weapon for sale mentions "how many rounds through the barrel" as a major selling point so I was wondering whether there was something I should be looking at when I have the gun in hand.

    Planning on the two brands I mentioned right now (Sig &/or CZ) and plan to go to a local range where I can handle & rent to get a better feel for what I like. Will not be a CCW at this time though I will hold it. Planning on using it as a nightstand/home defense weapon though who knows what the future will hold. May eventually end up as my concealed carry gun.

    Thanks everyone.
     
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