SB354: College carry

[RPB]

In this morning's committee meeting, Aycock (R-54) and Darby (R-72) voted in favor of Diane Patrick’s (Democrat)amendment (against campus carry). so her amendment failed 15-5

Then
SB 1581 passed out of Appropriations committee as is, (out of committee) 17-3.

The bill now goes to the Calendars Committee, chaired by Todd Hunter (R-32). He sounds very positive about SB 1581 making it to floor.

It’s very likely that points of order like Patrick’s will arise, once SB 1581 reaches the floor. This tactic helps delay bills until time runs out on the legislative session. Considering this, the most important person to call now is Speaker Straus. Despite overwhelming support for campus carry among House members, how Straus rules on points of order will determine whether campus carry reaches the governor’s desk.

District121.Straus@house.state.tx.us
Speaker Joe Straus: (512) 463-1000


Then
Please call these five Representatives, and tell them THANK YOU for supporting the campus carry provision of SB 1581 in committee:

Rep. Jim Pitts - (512) 463-0516 - jim.pitts@house.state.tx.us
Rep. Myra Crownover - (512) 463-0582 - myra.crownover@house.state.tx.us
Rep. Dee Margo - (512) 463-0728 - dee.margo@house.state.tx.us
Rep. Geanie Morrison - (512) 463-0456 - geanie.morrison@house.state.tx.us
Rep. Mark Shelton - (512) 463-0608 - mark.shelton@house.state.tx.us

Also
Please call these two Representatives, and POLITELY tell them how DISAPPOINTED you are that they chose to vote against the campus carry provision of SB 1581 in committee:

Rep. Jimmie Don Aycock - (512) 463-0684 - jimmie.aycock@house.state.tx.us
Rep. Drew Darby - (512) 463-0331 - district72.darby@house.state.tx.us

SB 1581 still has to pass two votes in the full House of Representatives, so it’s important to let these legislators know how you feel.

*When I called Aycock's (Republican over the district where the Luby's massacre occurred) office, he said 200 calls [from out of State Democrats who were tweeted by Bradys group?] opposed it, and that's why he voted against it in committee. (He thought/thinks they are "his constituents")

 

[Bithabus]

The House Appropriations Committee severely modified SB1581. Now if it passes the House it will have to go back to the Senate...

 

[RPB]

The House Appropriations Committee severely modified SB1581. Now if it passes the House it will have to go back to the Senate...

correct

Appropriations committee minutes

Meeting Minutes Display

The chair laid out SB 1581.
The chair offered a complete committee substitute.
The committee substitute was adopted without objection.
(Representative McClendon now present.)

Representative Patrick, Diane offered an amendment to the committee substitute.
The amendment failed by the following record vote:

etc

Unless I'm wrong ...

So the House will be voting on the substitute tomorrow (still containing Campus Carry)
82(R) SB 1581 - House Committee Report version - Bill Text
Then, since the House made a complete substitute ... it will need to go back to the Senate, to see if Ogden's group approves Guide to Texas Legislative Information--Process--Return of a Bill
or if they need a conference committee.
Guide to Texas Legislative Information--Process--Conference Committee

 

[Bithabus]

correct

Appropriations committee minutes

Meeting Minutes Display


Unless I'm wrong ...

So the House will be voting on the substitute tomorrow (still containing Campus Carry)
82(R) SB 1581 - House Committee Report version - Bill Text
Then, since the House made a complete substitute ... it will need to go back to the Senate, to see if Ogden's group approves Guide to Texas Legislative Information--Process--Return of a Bill
or if they need a conference committee.
Guide to Texas Legislative Information--Process--Conference Committee

I thought a committee substitute was handled in the same way as an amended bill.

 

[RPB]

There are 76 amendments filed to be heard on SB 1581 tomorrow, many on Finance matters; ... about half by HB 750 authors (campus carry) if it's a lot different already ... Senate willl have to accept changes, else form house/Senate conference committee to come to agreement .... Democrats hope for more time/ want Special Session; Perry says nope, no special session, y'all get to work faster. (putting pressure on to pass )

 

[RetArmySgt]

Did they modify the campus carry portion or is it still at full strength.

 

[RPB]

well, full strength for Public/State supported so far not "so-called" Private schools like Rice University which get $30,000,000.00 in Taxpayer funds as "Grants" though... we'll see after they hear/vote on SB 1811 today, then 1581 will come up ... anything can happen with 76 to 81 amendments being voted on to it today.... we'll know ion several hours or so.

 

[Bithabus]

Did they modify the campus carry portion or is it still at full strength.

It's the same as the Senate version.

 

[RPB]

sb 1581 postponed until tomorrow

the big argument is over money/school finance budgets ... only a few seem worried about campus carry Rep Sylvester Turner mainly, and democrats .... relay need to be calling/faxing e-mailing .... gun free campus groups are.


I had a Senator and a Representative start following me on Twitter today after knocking out a Sfgfs Students for gun free schools "strawman" argument

Yje rep earlier said to John Woods' group, "well, I resisted, but you convinced me"


so he they need unconvincing (they need FACTS/LOGIC) Representatives/Senators are better thnkers that Pied Piper followers .... well some are ..

 

[Driller]

Side note: When campus carry becomes legal...........Is going to a college football game, with the stadium on campus, legal to carry in the stadium?

 

[Fred B.]

no

 

[Bithabus]

deleted.

 

[San Antone RR]

Yes.

I thought sporting events were off limts?

 

[Bithabus]

I thought sporting events were off limts?

They are. I forgot that collegiate sporting events are listed in 46.035.

 

[jsimmons]

Campus carry is dead - it turns out that they violated the Texas constitution when they attached it to the other bill. Everyone's saying that it's a no go until the next session in 2013.

 

[DrBart2]

Campus carry is dead - it turns out that they violated the Texas constitution when they attached it to the other bill. Everyone's saying that it's a no go until the next session in 2013.

That seems odd. They attach amendments to other bills all the time. How does this particular one differ from others?

 

[Fred B.]

Everyone's saying that it's a no go until the next session in 2013.

Who is "everyone" ?

 

[London]

Not sure how this would be unconstitutional- Texas has no germaneness rules.

 

[Fred B.]

Not sure how this would be unconstitutional- Texas has no germaneness rules.

This is what I found.......

CSSB 1581 - POINT OF ORDER
Representative Villarreal raised a point of order against further consideration
of CSSB 1581 under Rule 8, Section 3 of the House Rules and under Article III,
Section 35a of the Texas Constitution on the grounds that the bill violates the one
subject rule.
The chair sustained the point of order.
CSSB 1581 was returned to the senate.

 

[San Antone RR]

I wonder if this is a tactic to get out on time tonight and end without a special session. I heard on the news that there were more than 100 amendments (like College Carry) added to a budget bill that needed to pass. I would bet that more than College Carry got similarly cut.