Texas Officer Caught On Camera Trying To Delete Video Of Unlawful Arrest/Detainment

[bones_708]

Is it a law that you must have ID on you? Carring a rifle with no ID don't sound like a good idea to me .IMO

It's not the law that you must have ID but it is foolish to do so. While you legally can't and shouldn't be arrested for it I would expect that cops wouldn't even give you the smallest benefit of the doubt if any situation does come up.

 

[Rhino]

It's not the law that you must have ID but it is foolish to do so. While you legally can't and shouldn't be arrested for it I would expect that cops wouldn't even give you the smallest benefit of the doubt if any situation does come up.

To be honest, I would prefer to always go without "ID" if possible. We should all respect each other as human beings. But of course if you are driving, flying, etc... it's pretty hard to get by without one.

 

[Hoji]

Talk about apples to oranges.

If we did try your plan not only would that be a horrible constitutional violation but we wouldn't have any cops. Somehow I'm not down for that.

And less police presence would be a bad thing why?

 

[bones_708]

And less police presence would be a bad thing why?

Because there would be a crap load more crime and a lot more victimization.

 

[Hoji]

Because there would be a crap load more crime and a lot more victimization.

I do not think so. I think if people had to depend on themselves for their own safety and protection, there would be a lot of dead thugs, and a lot less of "respect mah authoritah"

 

[vmax]

That video is shocking.

people carrying firearms in public, speaking their minds to the police, recording police encounters, objecting unlawful searches and attempted destruction of evidence, just what in the hell is going on down in Houston town?

Whats next? If this keeps up next thing you know is Pastor's will be preaching against homosexual lifestyles.

 

[txinvestigator]

I do not think so. I think if people had to depend on themselves for their own safety and protection, there would be a lot of dead thugs, and a lot less of "respect mah authoritah"

I completely disagree.

 

[vmax]

I do not think so. I think if people had to depend on themselves for their own safety and protection, there would be a lot of dead thugs, and a lot less of "respect mah authoritah"

does anybody here go to bed at night with warm thoughts thinking that the police are out on the streets keeping them safe from bad people? Really?
I'm not sure that many people do think they depend on the police for their safety and protection. Maybe people that go to malls and drive hybrids think that way but the people I associate with sure the hell don't.

 

[TheDan]

I do not think so. I think if people had to depend on themselves for their own safety and protection, there would be a lot of dead thugs, and a lot less of "respect mah authoritah"

I completely disagree.

I don't say this often, but Hoji is right

Police simply can't prevent crime. They can make crime move around a bit by being present, but all they can really do is catch criminals after the crime has been committed in order to incarcerate them. Incarceration doesn't prevent future crimes either as recidivism is extremely high.

 

[txinvestigator]

does anybody here go to bed at night with warm thoughts thinking that the police are out on the streets keeping them safe from bad people? Really?
I'm not sure that many people do think they depend on the police for their safety and protection. Maybe people that go to malls and drive hybrids think that way but the people I associate with sure the hell don't.

The majority of people do not understand the concept that generally, the police will only be there to clean up the mess. That said, society would be in shambles without the police. The police are critical for the investigation of crimes and incarcerating offenders. Cops also prevent an enormous amount of crime.

I support body camera for LEOs.

 

[txinvestigator]

I don't say this often, but Hoji is right

Police simply can't prevent crime. They can make crime move around a bit by being present, but all they can really do is catch criminals after the crime has been committed in order to incarcerate them. Incarceration doesn't prevent future crimes either as recidivism is extremely high.

Actually stats prove differently, as does my experience. An offender in prison cannot victimize YOU today. The guys arrested at o dark thirty for carrying a crow bar behind the closed business is a crime prevented. People caught in the act or even immediately afterward allow victims to recover property.

You are right about the displacement. Much crime us displaced.

 

[vmax]

The majority of people do not understand the concept that generally, the police will only be there to clean up the mess. That said, society (in big cities) would be in shambles without the police. The police are critical for the investigation of crimes and incarcerating offenders. Cops also prevent an enormous amount of crime.

FIFY

Country people can mostly better prepared to take care of themselves and know the police are up to 30 mintues away
It's the city dwellers that downlead an ap on their smartt phone to call 911 and that makes them feel secure and safe.

I support body camera for LEOs.

here! here!

 

[vmax]

.... Incarceration doesn't prevent future crimes either as recidivism is extremely high.

sometimes it promotes future crimes. The petty theif finally gets put in for a few years and comes out, bigger stronger and now a gang member more equipped to commit crime then when he went inside.
that happens.. alot

 

[txinvestigator]

sometimes it promotes future crimes. The petty theif finally gets put in for a few years and comes out, bigger stronger and now a gang member more equipped to commit crime then when he went inside.
that happens.. alot

That and more....

However, those incarcerated are not committing crimes on the outside while they are in.

 

[TheDan]

The guys arrested at o dark thirty for carrying a crow bar behind the closed business is a crime prevented.

Just curious as to what the arrest would be for in this scenario. Trespassing? Carrying a "club"? Hey man, I was just walking through this alley minding my own business, lol...

those incarcerated are not committing crimes on the outside while they are in.

That's true, but it's very temporary. I'm not sure what a better method would be, but locking criminals up by itself isn't very effective. I think we need some form of ostracism to come back. If someone is a thief, no one should do business with them until they have paid restitution (to the actual victim, not the "state"). By not do business with, I mean not even HEB or Walmart will sell them groceries. Instead what we do is give them a Lonestar card after they've served their 6mo in criminal academy

 

[Vaquero]

What we need is good honest people in positions of authority.
What we get most often are just average at best who made it through an Academy.

I've got a friend who worked for TDCJ. When he started, he wanted to make a difference.
When he quit 6 years later, he was an overbearing thug. The environment got to him.

 

[Polarbear6]

does anybody here go to bed at night with warm thoughts thinking that the police are out on the streets keeping them safe from bad people? Really?
I'm not sure that many people do think they depend on the police for their safety and protection. Maybe people that go to malls and drive hybrids think that way but the people I associate with sure the hell don't.

I believe that when it comes to their own safety, self defense and the police, most people don't "think" at all

 

[PhulesAu]

I believe that when it comes to their own safety, self defense and the police, most people don't "think" at all

1000 Interwebnetz points!!!

 

[cpileri]

I always thought we ought to take the weightlifting out of prisons, give them a track for running/walking to get some excercise; and feed them a reduced calorie, reduced protein diet. No sense in making bigger, stronger criminals. If they get out and truly reform, they can add the weights and protein back in as free persons.

sometimes it promotes future crimes. The petty theif finally gets put in for a few years and comes out, bigger stronger and now a gang member more equipped to commit crime then when he went inside.
that happens.. alot

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

I believe that when it comes to their own safety, self defense and the police, most people don't "think" at all

Uncle Sam taught us that in basic. Out here your safety is your responsibility.
And face it the way this country is now it's a combat zone