Texas Officer Caught On Camera Trying To Delete Video Of Unlawful Arrest/Detainment

[CAShooter]

Being fired does. Sorry, but my opinion, a cop that knowingly and wilfully breaks the law, doesn't need to be one. If he is going to violate rights and tamper with evidence, what other laws is he willng to break?


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Agreed

 

[vmax]

he doesn't need to be fired.. he needs to get his ass fired

 

[Vaquero]

he doesn't need to be fired.. he needs to get his ass fired

1/2 chewed french fries all over my tablet.

 

[Mike1234567]

Being fired does. Sorry, but my opinion, a cop that knowingly and wilfully breaks the law, doesn't need to be one. If he is going to violate rights and tamper with evidence, what other laws is he willng to break?


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Bingo... fire his ass immediately after a hearing (a REAL hearing) finds him guilty.

 

[bones_708]

Bingo... fire his ass immediately after a hearing (a REAL hearing) finds him guilty.

Mind you that ignores the fact that the officer is more likely to be hit by lightning than being found guilty but what the heck right?

 

[Acera]

Mind you that ignores the fact that the officer is more likely to be hit by lightning than being found guilty but what the heck right?

Bones, you seem to be pretty adamant that this officer will get no punishment. Do you think he did anything wrong? Or, are you just saying that the internal affairs investigation that is currently underway on him will lead to nothing? Just trying to understand your position, you sound like his mother at this point.

 

[Saltyag2010]

Bones, you seem to be pretty adamant that this officer will get no punishment. Do you think he did anything wrong? Or, are you just saying that the internal affairs investigation that is currently underway on him will lead to nothing? Just trying to understand your position, you sound like his mother at this point.

I agree with bones on this. Slap on the wrist and back out to the streets. The precedent has been set.

I don't agree with it but it's nothing I can fix either.

 

[bones_708]

Bones, you seem to be pretty adamant that this officer will get no punishment. Do you think he did anything wrong? Or, are you just saying that the internal affairs investigation that is currently underway on him will lead to nothing? Just trying to understand your position, you sound like his mother at this point.

I didn't say he did no wrong nor did I say he would get no punishment. I just think while rhetoric is all fine and well one should also view the world as it is. The closest crime I can think of to this officers actions is official oppression. Technically the crime fits but it almost always involves some other crime. The cop didn't rob the guy. Didn't beat him, didn't sexually assault him. That is when official oppression gets charged not for when you are made to wait a few min and then are let go. Charging the cop with that would be an unfair and uneven application of law. Even if you did you would have to prove that he "knowingly" did so. That there is no way that the officer could ever think what he did was legal. I'm pro cop but I've also known some dumb police that I really wonder how they managed to pass TCLOSE. So it seems a real high bar to convict the cop even if you did try and unevenly apply the law. While I guess there could be more info, comments made somewhere, etc. Right now the idea that from this one and only stop with no other indication or implication of any other activity there should be some arrest and ruining of this cops life because this event involves gun rights is more than a bit nuts! That you think only his mother would think so means you need to get out in the real world.

 

[jrbfishn]

Guess I'm just ignorant. I thought tampering with evidence, even in an insignificant situation as this, was a crime. The law enforcement classes I took in college did not specify that cops were above the law.

And let me say this. For any LEO that does their job right, legally an fairly, I have nothing but respect. For one that does not and uses the badge as a shield to bully and break the law, I have nothing but contempt and disgust for the cowards they are.


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[Acera]

Ok, understand you know Bones. I kinda thought you were defending him at all costs before, hence the mother comment.

I just think that since the guy got put in handcuffs, officer clearly wrong in trying to delete the video among other things. Added to the fact that the citizen put forth a effort into his protest, he will not let it go. With the media attention I think the best interest of the city would be to make a settlement deal, no one allowed to discuss it, instead of having to pay and deal with a civil suit that will probably make the news, and keep the thing going. Regardless of the outcome of the court case, sometimes it is easier and cheaper to pay and make the whole thing go away quietly.

 

[bones_708]

Guess I'm just ignorant. I thought tampering with evidence, even in an insignificant situation as this, was a crime. The law enforcement classes I took in college did not specify that cops were above the law.

And let me say this. For any LEO that does their job right, legally an fairly, I have nothing but respect. For one that does not and uses the badge as a shield to bully and break the law, I have nothing but contempt and disgust for the cowards they are.


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Evidence of what? What crime? A police office being wrong just doesn't automatically mean it's a crime.

 

[bones_708]

Ok, understand you know Bones. I kinda thought you were defending him at all costs before, hence the mother comment.

I just think that since the guy got put in handcuffs, officer clearly wrong in trying to delete the video among other things. Added to the fact that the citizen put forth a effort into his protest, he will not let it go. With the media attention I think the best interest of the city would be to make a settlement deal, no one allowed to discuss it, instead of having to pay and deal with a civil suit that will probably make the news, and keep the thing going. Regardless of the outcome of the court case, sometimes it is easier and cheaper to pay and make the whole thing go away quietly.

Cuffs make little to no real difference legally speaking. If a cops tells you to stop or to stay then you are just as detained as if you were cuffed. There just are no damages without a pattern of behavior so you won't be getting any real lawyers to take a case like this unless there is something more there. A story like this will not raise much outcry, that some "nutjob" carrying a "assault weapon" without ID was temporally stopped by the cops who were just trying to make sure there were no problems. Yeah the general public will probably think the guy should of gone to jail. I think they are wrong but I recognize what the reality is.

 

[jrbfishn]

Never mind. You're right, I know nothing of the real world.



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[Tejano Scott]

Cuffs make little to no real difference legally speaking. If a cops tells you to stop or to stay then you are just as detained as if you were cuffed. There just are no damages without a pattern of behavior so you won't be getting any real lawyers to take a case like this unless there is something more there. A story like this will not raise much outcry, that some "nutjob" carrying a "assault weapon" without ID was temporally stopped by the cops who were just trying to make sure there were no problems. Yeah the general public will probably think the guy should of gone to jail. I think they are wrong but I recognize what the reality is.

I think lawyers would probably take this case tomorrow if you paid them by the hour (against a large upfront retainer). I know when I was in private practice, I rarely said no to large sums of money being handed to me. Your point is a fair one though- I doubt any lawyer would take this case on contingency unless they just wanted the free press and were bored.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

I think lawyers would probably take this case tomorrow if you paid them by the hour (against a large upfront retainer). I know when I was in private practice, I rarely said no to large sums of money being handed to me. Your point is a fair one though- I doubt any lawyer would take this case on contingency unless they just wanted the free press and were bored.

say it ain't so you were one of those! ! Lol

 

[Tejano Scott]

say it ain't so you were one of those! ! Lol

Trust me, you wouldn't turn it away either. If someone demands justice, and they are willing to pay by the hour for it, then who am I to stand it the way. I'll work my ass off to get them the result they want. Until the retainer runs out, then we gonna need to fix that problem first.

 

[robertc1024]

I like me a good attorney. John O'quinn financed my FIL lots, before he ran his Cadillac into a tree.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

Trust me, you wouldn't turn it away either. If someone demands justice, and they are willing to pay by the hour for it, then who am I to stand it the way. I'll work my ass off to get them the result they want. Until the retainer runs out, then we gonna need to fix that problem first.

tru dat bizdness is bulidzess

 

[Tony2]

The funny thing about this is. (or not) he has a patrol car, a badge, a gun and Obama is buying him a camera and he cant operate a cell phone

 

[icecoldtexan]

In a town where the dumb ass police chief can drive his city vehicle into a pedestrian in a crosswalk without any consequences, I'm sure this pig won't get into any trouble.