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  • Renegade

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    Wrong again.

    The precedent set did bring changes in places other than DC.

    No Federal or State Law was overturned, that is not wrong, it is a fact. No other state had to make changes to comply, that is also a fact. When a decision does not affect 99.8% of the population, it is a nothing burger.
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    No Federal or State Law was overturned, that is not wrong, it is a fact. No other state had to make changes to comply, that is also a fact. When a decision does not affect 99.8% of the population, it is a nothing burger.
    What it did was set precedence to where no state or city could ban guns as a means of self defense. Although states and cities have been trying get to the point of an outright ban, it's because of the Heller decision that has blocked that.
     

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    What it did was set precedence to where no state or city could ban guns as a means of self defense. Although states and cities have been trying get to the point of an outright ban, it's because of the Heller decision that has blocked that.

    The precedence was already set for 200 years. Everybody was in compliance except DC. They are now in compliance. Hardly a major win of any kind. CA can pass the same law as DC today, they will be out of compliance. We will go to court and get them in compliance. There is no new win when SCOTUS re-enforces a right we have had FOR 200 years.
     

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    The precedence was already set for 200 years. Everybody was in compliance except DC. They are now in compliance. Hardly a major win of any kind. CA can pass the same law as DC today, they will be out of compliance. We will go to court and get them in compliance. There is no new win when SCOTUS re-enforces a right we have had FOR 200 years.
    Look, I don't think poo pooing 2nd Amendment winning decisions through SCOTUS is a good strategy, many of the lawsuits that are in courts now are using Heller as a basis, as they have in the past. Stick to fighting against the negative not the positive.
     

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    Look, I don't think poo pooing 2nd Amendment winning decisions through SCOTUS is a good strategy, many of the lawsuits that are in courts now are using Heller as a basis, as they have in the past. Stick to fighting against the negative not the positive.

    Not poo-pooing anything, but reaffirming what you already have, that does not affect 99.8% of the population is not much of a win to me. Striking down Brady, AWB, MG ban, NFA, etc., those would be big wins.
     

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    Not poo-pooing anything, but reaffirming what you already have, that does not affect 99.8% of the population is not much of a win to me. Striking down Brady, AWB, MG ban, NFA, etc., those would be big wins.
    Do you think that if the FCR Act was still in place today in D.C. that other cities and states wouldn't try to use it as precedence?
     

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    Easy, stop trying to confuse him with facts. He has his mind made up.

    based on the FACT no federal or state laws were overturned.
    based on the FACT it did not affect 99.8% of the population.
    based on the FACT it re-enforced existing precedent.

    Sorry if the FACTS get in the your way of your narrative.
     

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    based on the FACT no federal or state laws were overturned.
    based on the FACT it did not affect 99.8% of the population.
    based on the FACT it re-enforced existing precedent.

    Sorry if the FACTS get in the your way of your narrative.
    These are the facts, and don't believe that no other cases were not affected due to the decision to reverse this:
    The Firearms Control Regulations Act of 1975 was passed by the District of Columbia city council on September 24, 1976.[1] The law banned residents from owning handguns, automatic firearms, or high-capacity semi-automatic firearms, as well as prohibited possession of unregistered firearms. Exceptions to the ban were allowed for police officers and guns registered before 1976. The law also required firearms kept in the home to be "unloaded, disassembled, or bound by a trigger lock or similar device";[2] this was deemed to be a prohibition on the use of firearms for self-defense in the home.[3] On June 26, 2008, in the historic case of District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court of the United States determined that the ban and trigger lock provisions violate the Second Amendment.
     

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    Again, re-affirming what had been precedent since December 15, 1791. Wont be the last time a someone has to get slapped back into line.
    This is what you said to begin with:
    Heller just brought one city in line with the rest of country. 99% of the country was unaffected. No federal or state law was overturned. Nothing burger.
    Which is not factually true, many cities and states were trying to require guns to be unloaded and to be locked up. The Heller Decision blocked those laws from fruition.
     
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