Campus carry syllabus post-SB-11

[jrbfishn]

You're pro-gun. Wouldn't count on it.

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[cbigclarke]

And a white male

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[joking]

And your nick has "gun" in it.

 

[Charlie]

OK, I'm back, some very interesting discussion here.

It may be that there will be required syllabus language. If so the CC Task Force I'm on will be drafting it. Mostly though professors are responsible for their own syllabus as long as it's within the law. It's often the point of a syllabus to say what laws, policies and rules apply in the classroom, so that all students know what the expectations of behavior (on both sides of the lectern) are.

I'm accused of "overthinking": Hello, I'm a professor. Overthinking is my job. I'll accept that one.

Important point about Jan 1. On that day, the border of campus becomes the end of OC in Texas. But that border is much more porous, poorly defined and difficult to identify than most people think. I think there's a very real possibility that somebody is going to accidentally OC right onto campus, or even right into a classroom. I don't think our University Counsel or Police chief has really thought about that, they certainly haven't said anything.

How do we alert people (especially non-chl) about the change of laws?

"Overthinking" is not a good thing. Professor or not! IMO it tends to make one not objective.

 

[Charlie]

"thinking" is OK, "overthinking" is no better than "underthinking"! "green". Individuals that think "overthinking" is good are the ones that think they are "smarter" than everyone else.

 

[jrbfishn]

I wonder,,,,, does he not like our thinking?

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[Bithabus]

Whether the students carry weapons to class is irrelevant to your role as educator, and is none of your business. If you had some experience with firearms you'd be aware that it's not a big deal.

 

[cbigclarke]

I wonder,,,,, does he not like our thinking?

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He really doesn't like us

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[Wiliamr]

I offered several questions for his response. No response. This gives me a great deal of information about the OP. My experience with the academicians in my years in education is that most "professors" do not like having their ideas/positions questioned, especially by students. Often they take serious offense that someone beneath them would dare, have the temerity, to actually think that they might have an idea which the highly educated and great thinker professor may have gotten wrong. If this person is indeed a professor, it may be this exact scenario. As the OP proudly proclaimed they are an overthinker. Looking for loopholes, cracks in the fascia, baiting with word duels is not educative. For me, I shall leave this OP in my past and give it the weight of validity it has earned.

 

[Glockster69]

I don't understand why someone would put so much energy into calling out ​law abiding people.

Does he do the same to those who own any other tool? Not likely.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

How is he going to handle fellow Professors that he sees carrying, is he going to report them to Campus Police as well?

 

[RCK1999]

How is he going to handle fellow Professors that he sees carrying, is he going to report them to Campus Police as well?

Somewhat on that topic: it will be interesting to see if universities address CC in their employment policies. I remember some here commenting that administrations can establish employment policies that would block employees from lawful CC.

(Please correct me if I'm wrong - I would like to be incorrect on this recollection).

 

[35Remington]

I have a suspicious feeling that "TexasProf" is not, never was, and never will be, a professor.

This was a test. I must say y'all's responses were quite rational. Good work, team.

 

[Glockster69]

Professor, this a link to the most recent Conviction Rates of Texas CHL holders:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/CHL/Reports/ConvictionRatesReport2013.pdf


And the main link to all data:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/reports/convrates.htm


The data confirms, as a whole, CHL holders don't get on the wrong side of the law.
Blood will not fill the streets on 1/1/16 due to Open Carry nor university halls on 8/1/16 due to Campus Carry.

 

[seeker_two]

If the professor is still listening, I have a submission for his syllabus.....

"Underwear, Vajazzle, firearms: I really don't want to see them. Keep them covered up."

 

[satx78247]

To All,

IF the University of Texas (Austin) was REALLY SMART, they would ask my beautiful, talented, highly educated, Latina, adopted daughter, who is a UT engineering faculty member & "devoted Orange-blood", to write the campus carry policy.
(She has a CHL & carries my old 9x18mm Makarov daily, everywhere that such concealed carry is lawful. Unlike a majority of UT faculty members that I've met, she has a head filled with commonsense.)

Of course, UT won't ask her to write the policy, as she actually is knowledgeable about firearms & is NOT "a leftist kook".

Note: Dads get to brag on their children, even those who are "grown & gone".

just my OPINION, satx

 

[RCK1999]

If the professor is still listening, I have a submission for his syllabus.....

"Underwear, Vajazzle, firearms: I really don't want to see them. Keep them covered up."

And don't forget to include "the open carry of dildos is expressing forbidden in any university classroom"!!!

 

[karlac]

I offered several questions for his response. No response. This gives me a great deal of information about the OP. My experience with the academicians in my years in education is that most "professors" do not like having their ideas/positions questioned, especially by students. Often they take serious offense that someone beneath them would dare, have the temerity, to actually think that they might have an idea which the highly educated and great thinker professor may have gotten wrong. If this person is indeed a professor, it may be this exact scenario. As the OP proudly proclaimed they are an overthinker. Looking for loopholes, cracks in the fascia, baiting with word duels is not educative. For me, I shall leave this OP in my past and give it the weight of validity it has earned.

Yep. Many of the current crop of younger "professors" with whom I've recently come into contact have yet to realize that the peripheral knowledge and understanding gained from doing research is, when you start drawing conclusions, often the most valuable.

Don't want to be uncharitable, but that realization/understanding here is either missing, or there is an unwillingness to put it to practice.

 

[zincwarrior]

Yep. Many of the current crop of younger "professors" with whom I've recently come into contact have yet to realize that the peripheral knowledge and understanding gained from doing research is, when you start drawing conclusions, often the most valuable.

Don't want to be uncharitable, but that realization/understanding here is either missing, or there is an unwillingness to put it to practice.

They would have a better claim if they were a practicing attorney. This is really a legal realm issue and has not to do with Professor of X.

 

[karlac]

They would have a better claim if they were a practicing attorney. This is really a legal realm issue and has not to do with Professor of X.

I agree with what you said ... even though it is quite a stretch to relate it to the post I replied to.