Midcoasthunter442
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CBD oil has been shown to be very effective for epilepsy and parkinson's. Here the links for two good examples. I must warn you, if you are a parent, the first one maybe hard to watch. Be patient...it's worth it.
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Midcoasthunter442
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There are also claims about CBD oil curing cancer, asthma, migraines, arthritis, gout and a long list of other ailments. I listen, read and research, but, at this point, some of these "cure all" claims sound like snake oil sales pitches. Everyone should research and decide.
Lunyfringe
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At least with CBD oil, there's no "high" effects... and you can buy CBD oil in Texas now (THC is what's regulated- not "hemp oil")
HKShooter65
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Interesting thread.
I go to CO lots.
Have a place there.
Unlike some others on this board I've pretty much never perceived Coloradans to be altered by it in any meaningful way. I've definitely witnesses TX and CA tourists there lighting up(illegally in public) and acting stoned in bars and eateries. CO locals are far more discretionary, I'd observe.
Pot is not my thing. Lowers my IQ to Forrest Gump, about 70!!!
Tried it about 8-10 times in various forms.
I'll stick with their myriad microbrews any day.
With that said, that's just me.
Cannabis is indisputably healthier than ethanol.
It's a great source of revenue.
It's a stupid thing to jail otherwise upstanding people for.
The medical benefits are numerous, though overrated and under-researched IMHO.
The dispensaries there tout it for everything from back pain to hemorrhoids to morning sickness to copper fouling in your 1911!!
Legalize it.
Properly study dangers and benefits.
Tax the crap out of it.
Shut down the border trade.
ASAP.
One of the few(perhaps only) instances where I admire California.
BTW it's purported to cure tinnitus, ringing ears, from shooting and too much rock-n-roll.
Darn. No such luck.
https://www.medicalmarijuana.com/me...cannabis-uses/tinnitus-cannabis-gives-relief/
The cicadas in my ears screamed loud as ever on it.
I go to CO lots.
Have a place there.
Unlike some others on this board I've pretty much never perceived Coloradans to be altered by it in any meaningful way. I've definitely witnesses TX and CA tourists there lighting up(illegally in public) and acting stoned in bars and eateries. CO locals are far more discretionary, I'd observe.
Pot is not my thing. Lowers my IQ to Forrest Gump, about 70!!!
Tried it about 8-10 times in various forms.
I'll stick with their myriad microbrews any day.
With that said, that's just me.
Cannabis is indisputably healthier than ethanol.
It's a great source of revenue.
It's a stupid thing to jail otherwise upstanding people for.
The medical benefits are numerous, though overrated and under-researched IMHO.
The dispensaries there tout it for everything from back pain to hemorrhoids to morning sickness to copper fouling in your 1911!!
Legalize it.
Properly study dangers and benefits.
Tax the crap out of it.
Shut down the border trade.
ASAP.
One of the few(perhaps only) instances where I admire California.
BTW it's purported to cure tinnitus, ringing ears, from shooting and too much rock-n-roll.
Darn. No such luck.
https://www.medicalmarijuana.com/me...cannabis-uses/tinnitus-cannabis-gives-relief/
The cicadas in my ears screamed loud as ever on it.
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If I firmly believed that to be true, I'd be a user.
It was like that before legal weed, too.
Colorado has defintiely lost it's frontier spirit. It was dying when I was there 15 years ago. I don't really consider it a western state anymore.
Unfortunately there's no fix for tinnitus as your ears are just plain worn out, but people have had success addressing the physiological aspects of it with psychotropics. Perhaps the mild psychotropic effects of THC accomplishes that in some people? It's sad that there's few if any real studies into this stuff due to the schedule 1 classifications and woowoo factor.
How do you propose we deal with the social consequences?
I’ll pose this scenario:
Feds don’t change a thing. Texas goes full legal all the way.
How do employers that, due to regulatory, contractual, or insurance/bonding reasons keep their workers on the pay rolls and off the welfare line?
Except, you can drink alcohol the night before, and be clean by the time work rolls around.
Lunyfringe
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So what? My employer's take on it: fail a drug test, you're gone... doesn't matter if it's legal in your state or not... it's a condition of employment.
Just would mean you couldn't be arrested after being shown the door... (not that a failed piss test is grounds for arrest).
There are some social aspects/issues... but in an at-will state, this is pretty well figured out already.
So, are employees now unable to make informed decisions regarding their actions?
Another point, an employee could drink a beer and go to work without breaking any laws (BAC below .08) and still be fired. So legal but not ok.
Lastly, I've worked many places and saw no drug testing PST initial employment unless there were extenuating circumstances (appearing to be under the influence).
Most employers aren't spending the money for random testing unless required.
But in general, employees have either been smoking weed illegally and not being caught or not smoking weed because they know they will lose their job so it comes down to no change for effected employees.
Again, I don't intend this to be in support of legalization. Just don't see employment as an issue of consideration in the debate.
Another point, an employee could drink a beer and go to work without breaking any laws (BAC below .08) and still be fired. So legal but not ok.
Lastly, I've worked many places and saw no drug testing PST initial employment unless there were extenuating circumstances (appearing to be under the influence).
Most employers aren't spending the money for random testing unless required.
But in general, employees have either been smoking weed illegally and not being caught or not smoking weed because they know they will lose their job so it comes down to no change for effected employees.
Again, I don't intend this to be in support of legalization. Just don't see employment as an issue of consideration in the debate.
Drug testing and employment is an interesting topic. I find the notion of random tests to be silly. Some people can use alcohol, MJ, heroin, etc. and still be completely competent to do their job. Some can't.
Random tests throw out the casual, never-gonna-cause-a-problem users along with the addicts. That's stupid.
At one time, a long time ago, in some places, pilots in the Air Force would get word "leaked" to them a couple of weeks in advance of a test. At the time, cocaine was the drug of choice in those circles. If someone was a casual user for whom their cocaine never impacted their performance, this was no problem. They'd stop using for a while and test clean. Anyone who, after getting a heads-up in plenty of time, still tested positive (and re-tested positive) had a serious problem and shouldn't be flying. They were grounded or worse.
That seemed to me to be a sensible approach. Nowadays, I think the zero tolerance/zero judgement/zero intelligence approach is in force in most places and I think that's a shame.
Random tests throw out the casual, never-gonna-cause-a-problem users along with the addicts. That's stupid.
At one time, a long time ago, in some places, pilots in the Air Force would get word "leaked" to them a couple of weeks in advance of a test. At the time, cocaine was the drug of choice in those circles. If someone was a casual user for whom their cocaine never impacted their performance, this was no problem. They'd stop using for a while and test clean. Anyone who, after getting a heads-up in plenty of time, still tested positive (and re-tested positive) had a serious problem and shouldn't be flying. They were grounded or worse.
That seemed to me to be a sensible approach. Nowadays, I think the zero tolerance/zero judgement/zero intelligence approach is in force in most places and I think that's a shame.
So, let me pose the question differently.
What is one issue you see and how would you address it?
If people choose drugs over their job then they have a serious problem or are just stupid.
They shouldn't be in the welfare line if they are on drugs either. (If I was in charge)
And don't get me wrong, I don't care about the "smoke after work and on the weekend" crowd. It is the "have to toke up before work or at lunch" people my comments are geared toward.
There are solutions for all the other social issues that seem to be lumped in with legalized marijuana too.
Wildcat Diva
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My husband lost his job due to a random test and positive marijuana result years back. (Well it wasn’t really random in that some (unassociated to him) employees in that facility got busted for having a meth lab and he got caught up in the random sweep of employee tests in the aftermath). It was devastating. Ruined things for us. Well, in looking back, it was a hurdle that built character I guess, whatever.
I wasn’t aware of the recreational use (that he tested positive for) and he initially hid his job loss from me over the weekend and when the work week started ran off ashamed for three days and I was left with three little kids and he barely made it back to me to face things from what I understand. Horrible scenario. Rough year followed.
I actually hate most everything about dealing with marijuana’s impact in a social environment and always have, way before this happened. Never tried it and I don’t intend to. I’ve come to the conclusion that the drug war is not great though and have looked at changing my thoughts on that with great frustration. If it became legal in our state I would probably become more isolated and annoyed and disconnected, because I don’t want to be a part of that culture. But whatever, I’m not the boss of everybody.
I don’t know how employers should handle drug testing if it becomes a legal substance but it’s not something to count on to think that they would handle testing in a way that’s in your favor if you partake, even recreationally, away from work.
I wasn’t aware of the recreational use (that he tested positive for) and he initially hid his job loss from me over the weekend and when the work week started ran off ashamed for three days and I was left with three little kids and he barely made it back to me to face things from what I understand. Horrible scenario. Rough year followed.
I actually hate most everything about dealing with marijuana’s impact in a social environment and always have, way before this happened. Never tried it and I don’t intend to. I’ve come to the conclusion that the drug war is not great though and have looked at changing my thoughts on that with great frustration. If it became legal in our state I would probably become more isolated and annoyed and disconnected, because I don’t want to be a part of that culture. But whatever, I’m not the boss of everybody.
I don’t know how employers should handle drug testing if it becomes a legal substance but it’s not something to count on to think that they would handle testing in a way that’s in your favor if you partake, even recreationally, away from work.
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