This is a harbinger for cars too. The youngins don't care about vehicles. They just want transport.They were moving some stuff to Thailand before Trump's tariff but I think the cycle market is kinda kaput in the US, especially for 25K cruisers. Millennials do not seem to like to ride.
Me, I will continue to ride my VFR and Street Triple
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over 25,000 miles 100% trouble free and my engine was juiced, on the dyno it laid down 93 hp on the street, fast VERY fast.I've owned two, an old sportster, and an old 3 wheeled Servi-car. Neither impressed me. Undependable, leaky, etc. I've rode my son in laws FatBoy many times. I like FAST dependable motorcycles, and Harleys are neither! Only thing I liked about em were the SOUND! And the idiots at Harley tried to get the sound trademarked! I shit you not! The courts didn't agree, of course.
I think old timers just use millennials for kids... You realize IM a millenial.. I'll be 37 next week. 1981-1996... most of them are in their late 20s early 30s.... It's not our fault that Ford, GM, HARLEY, all suck ass... I drive a toyota. You know why? It's a damn good designed car and most of it was built in the United States.
Every Ford or GM I ever bought was a piece of trash that broke down every other month. The best two cars I ever owned were a Toyota and a Honda... The MARKET regulates itself. The Germans and Americans SUCK at making cars (as do the french and italians.) The Japanese also make motorcycles better too.. Don't like it because you have a brand loyalty? Tough shit.
Trucks.. different story.. the American automakers do a decent job of that.
LOL, 37 and you are already and expert on cars, wow...just a few of my GM's and Fords:
54 Chevy 3500 big six auto trans, speedo broke at 221,000 mi, drove it another 7 years after that, sold it in '75
64 Corvette, 327, 375 HP, 4 sp, 4.11 gears never left me on the side of the road in its 107,000 mi
Z06 Corvette, 3 years never went into the dealer for a warranty issue
On my 4th F 350 truck [09,11, 15, 17] the only warranty issue out of all these trucks was a vibrating mirror on the drivers side of my '15, each one was traded in at around 45,000 mi, my 17 has 25,000 mi, all are used to haul a load from 6000 lbs in the bed to pulling 26,000 lb, 90% of all mi are under load.
These are just a few of the vehicles I have owned over almost 60 years of driving.
And my Lexus SC 400 never had a warranty issue in 5 years of driving, great car, one of my fav's in fact.
That is just a few cars/trucks I have owned over the years Mr MilliMan, nearly 25 years before your daddy ever thought about you I was smoking tires down the 1320 in that 64 Corvette. You don't have enough experience in life to pour piss out of a boot with the directions written on the heel...let us know when you git it figured out, LOL...
So I guess over 60,000 miles before having any major issue (stator) is your idea of bad quality. How many Harleys have you owned from over the past 4 decades that you base this on?The thing is since the late 70s early 80s everything GM and Ford have produced were shit... look you want to talk down to me that's your perogative, but I've taken apart engines all the way down to pulling the cylinders out with the head off covered in grease... I understand your love for CLASSIC American Cars.. but they havent BUILT them like that since they learned about something called planned obsolescence.
I'm not using ad hominem attacks.. I'm speaking to the argument.. if you want to talk down to me do it somewhere else you'll end up on my ever expanding ignored list of ignorance that can't be dealt with because IM BUSY. I'm just saying Harley hasn't built a quality product in 4 decades and they overcharge for what they produce.. MUCH LIKE GM and Ford.. I'm sure when you were my age.. you know.. back before my daddy thought about me, they produced good quality stuff, they don't anymore... I'm sorry it pisses you off. Don't take it out on me.
So I guess over 60,000 miles before having any major issue (stator) is your idea of bad quality. How many Harleys have you owned over the past 4 decades that you base this on?