Coronavirus Epidemic, Part 2

[DubiousDan]

Thank you for not answering my question.

Happy to oblige.

 

[glenbo]

Israeli Study Offers First Real-World Glimpse of COVID-19 Vaccines in Action

There are many reasons to be excited about the three COVID-19 vaccines that are now getting into arms across the U.S. At the top of the list is their extremely high level of safety and protection a…

directorsblog.nih.gov

4th paragraph for those who wonder about the efficacy of only one shot of the 2-shot vaccines.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

DD,

Not a shot...are you a Conservative?

Your approach to the 'rona' aligns with the 'left's' view...some of who are now 'suggesting' mask wearing should be a permanent thing.

Are you for that too?

 

[rotor]

Honest question. What other vaccines are known to cause adverse affects in so many people? Conjecture, sure, but very few people I've talked with have said they felt 100% after being vaccinated against covid. Many of the same people I know get flu shots each year (we do it in-office) without any reactions.

I've been poked with all the common vaccines over the years, flu vaccines several years, donated blood a shit ton of times, and have never experienced any more discomfort than a very slight "ow" if I moved my arm just right. I haven't gotten the covid shot, but honestly I'm wary. Is this a known variable, something to do with how it was cultured or created, something to do with it being mRNA vs. inactivated live virus, something else?

When I was in the Air Force, their idiots thought that if one flu shot was good, then we will give two and I was sick as a dog for a week. Just like with 2nd Moderna. There can be serious complications with vaccines. Smallpox vaccine was stopped because smallpox was eradicated and more people died of reactions to smallpox vaccine than smallpox. People died of oral polio vaccine and people got polio secondary to oral polio vaccine. Pneumococcal pneumonia vaccine has always been a sore arm vaccine for me.
One thing we need to consider is that Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA induced vaccines, first of their kind so we can't compare to other vaccines. One thing is for certain, no matter what the vaccine is there will be a percentage of people with a bad reaction and likely some people will die. From the vaccine, from the preservative, who knows. You play the odds or you decide not to. Your choice. J&J over 6 million doses and 6 people got that clot problem. Serious yes. How many people get that clot problem without the vaccine? I personally wouldn't take J&J because it is not as effective as Moderna and Pfizer. As far as I am concerned, they can send J&J to some 3rd world country and let them worry about it. Make your own decision and place your bets. The odds are pretty good though with living through the vaccine compared to the odds of living through the disease.

 

[DubiousDan]

DD,

Not a shot...are you a Conservative?

Your approach to the 'rona' aligns with the 'left's' view...some of who are now 'suggesting' mask wearing should be a permanent thing.

Are you for that too?

Shot is slang for an injection. A shot/injection is a method of delivering a liquid into the body and has nothing to do with what is being introduced. Thinking there is a difference between a shot or injection or a difference in calling a vaccine or antibiotic a shot vs an injection is ignorant. When dealing with children and child like adults I'd call an injection a "shot" because that's what they would understand. Same with calling an ulnar (or any other bone) fracture a broken arm so they would understand.

By that logic a penicillin shot is not an antibiotic and a tetanus shot is not a vaccine.

Inferring that someone may not be conservative because they use proper terminology is just using an ad hominem attack in an attempt to cast aspersions on the character of someone you disagree with. That's a favorite tactic of the left so it would appear that your approach to debate aligns with the left...are you a conservative?

If you had actually paid attention to what I've said you would have noted that I've stated on more than one occasion that I am opposed to the mask mandates.

 

[DubiousDan]

When I was in the Air Force, their idiots thought that if one flu shot was good, then we will give two and I was sick as a dog for a week. Just like with 2nd Moderna. There can be serious complications with vaccines. Smallpox vaccine was stopped because smallpox was eradicated and more people died of reactions to smallpox vaccine than smallpox. People died of oral polio vaccine and people got polio secondary to oral polio vaccine. Pneumococcal pneumonia vaccine has always been a sore arm vaccine for me.
One thing we need to consider is that Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA induced vaccines, first of their kind so we can't compare to other vaccines. One thing is for certain, no matter what the vaccine is there will be a percentage of people with a bad reaction and likely some people will die. From the vaccine, from the preservative, who knows. You play the odds or you decide not to. Your choice. J&J over 6 million doses and 6 people got that clot problem. Serious yes. How many people get that clot problem without the vaccine? I personally wouldn't take J&J because it is not as effective as Moderna and Pfizer. As far as I am concerned, they can send J&J to some 3rd world country and let them worry about it. Make your own decision and place your bets. The odds are pretty good though with living through the vaccine compared to the odds of living through the disease.

Another thing to consider is that over 200,000,000 covid vaccine injections have been given in the space of a few months and that skews the perspective in regards to the number of people who have serious side effects. Instead of the number of people having serious side effects being spread over years they are happening in months.

On top of that we have a news media that loves to stir the shit to increase readership and viewership.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

DD,

You've become pedantic to the point of boring so I have to heap you onto the pile of 'ignore'...buh-bye!

 

[DubiousDan]

People died of oral polio vaccine and people got polio secondary to oral polio vaccine.

In the ER and when I worked Pedi when we gave the polio vaccine it was only given just before they were discharged because there was a chance of infecting another patient who might be immune-suppresed.

 

[DubiousDan]

DD,

You've become pedantic to the point of boring so I have to heap you onto the pile of 'ignore'...buh-bye!

LOL, Thanks

 

[rotor]

In the ER and when I worked Pedi when we gave the polio vaccine it was only given just before they were discharged because there was a chance of infecting another patient who might be immune-suppresed.

The weakened strain of polio virus sometimes reverted to the full strength form and people who took the oral form could therefore pass on a full virulent form to un-vaccinated people. Nothing is 100% safe but I would bet that most on this forum took oral polio vaccine.

 

[DubiousDan]

The weakened strain of polio virus sometimes reverted to the full strength form and people who took the oral form could therefore pass on a full virulent form to un-vaccinated people. Nothing is 100% safe but I would bet that most on this forum took oral polio vaccine.

I'm sure a fair number of us had the injection too.

 

[DubiousDan]

Apologies to Mowingmaniac 24/7, I misunderstood his use of the word "shot'. I thought he was refering to the idea I've seen put forth by some here that the flu vaccine is not a vaccine because it is commonaly called a "flu shot" and that the covid vaccine is not a vaccine, it's just a shot. Hence my rant on injection vs shot.

 

[BRD@66]

Apologies to Mowingmaniac 24/7, I misunderstood his use of the word "shot'. I thought he was refering to the idea I've seen put forth by some here that the flu vaccine is not a vaccine because it is commonaly called a "flu shot" and that the covid vaccine is not a vaccine, it's just a shot. Hence my rant on injection vs shot.

I saw that & smiled.

 

[motorcarman]

Read at your own risk!!!

https://nojabforme.info/

 

[Texas45]

In the case of the covid vaccine a lower level of immunity.

You AINT immune.
Reduced probability of infection sure
Immune NOPE.


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[motorcarman]

mRNA (Messenger ribonucleuc acid) is not a vaccine. It is a medical device.
Many people reported to be infected with SARS CoV 2 (code name COVID19) even after being 'fully-vaccinated'.
Maybe the 'messenger' is not getting through?
Maybe the 'messenger' only has one message for too many questions or recipients?
Maybe??????????????????

 

[kbaxter60]

This is a long video, about 20 minutes. I found it interesting and informative. No doubt our resident Covid Alarmists can tell us that it is full of lies and just wrong (provide references). Sometimes you just have to look out and try to decide WHY things are going as they are. If you watch much "traditional news" (old news) you will see videos of injection after injection. Why? What's their agenda, if not to deaden us to the idea? They even came up with a cute moniker for it: "shots in arms". Weird. Anyway, was there not a video?

HUMAN 2.0 ? A WAKE-UP ABOUT COVID19 VACCINE - DR. CARRIE MADEJ (MIRRORED)

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www.brighteon.com

 

[kbaxter60]

Another interesting read. Have you had any encounters with seemingly well-meaning people who encourage you to get your vaccine for your own good and that of others? Maybe THIS is where all that comes from? (I already mentioned seeing the agenda of the "media")

UK Gov. document reveals disgusting tactics used to coerce Brits into having experimental COVID-19 Vaccine

For well over a year and counting the British people have been part of a psychological war, in which authorities have manipulated them into giving up their righ

dailyexpose.co.uk

 

[BillFairbanks]

I've had pneumonia more than a dozen times in my life. I've been hospitalized with it. It nearly killed me at least 3 times before I was 35. Hell, my parents actually took me outside to play in the snow for about 5 minutes when I was 3 or 4 years old and had pneumonia. Why? Because I'd been so sick so many times that they didn't think I'd ever grow up to see snow.

Pneumonia can be devastating at any stage of life and I take it very, very seriously. But maybe that's just me.

To tie back into the thread topic, given my history and current health problems, I take all the vaccines that might have any chance of utility for me. That doesn't include anthrax, rabies, or hepatitis but certainly does include shingles, pneumonia, flu, and, as soon as I can track down an appointment, covid.

Absolutely

Pneumonia nearly killed me when I was 32. I’m hardly ever sick. I spent over a week in the hospital on oxygen. My experience with pneumonia was a lot worse than what most of my friends have told me regarding their experience with Covid


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[motorcarman]

Since the virus is SARS CoV 2 (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Corona Virus 2)
I was concerned that when I had it, that might turn into Pneumonia if fluid pooled in my lungs so I only laid around for a few hours before I got up and moved around (like getting on my tractor and put out hay for the animals or filled water troughs)

Never did have any lung problems during or after, just lost my sense of taste and smell for a while.

I think maybe many infected people got 'whiny' and lazy, just laid in bed too long and got lung problems? That can't help with recovery if fluid builds up in your lungs.