DubiousDan
Trump 2024
Happy to oblige.Thank you for not answering my question.
Happy to oblige.Thank you for not answering my question.
When I was in the Air Force, their idiots thought that if one flu shot was good, then we will give two and I was sick as a dog for a week. Just like with 2nd Moderna. There can be serious complications with vaccines. Smallpox vaccine was stopped because smallpox was eradicated and more people died of reactions to smallpox vaccine than smallpox. People died of oral polio vaccine and people got polio secondary to oral polio vaccine. Pneumococcal pneumonia vaccine has always been a sore arm vaccine for me.Honest question. What other vaccines are known to cause adverse affects in so many people? Conjecture, sure, but very few people I've talked with have said they felt 100% after being vaccinated against covid. Many of the same people I know get flu shots each year (we do it in-office) without any reactions.
I've been poked with all the common vaccines over the years, flu vaccines several years, donated blood a shit ton of times, and have never experienced any more discomfort than a very slight "ow" if I moved my arm just right. I haven't gotten the covid shot, but honestly I'm wary. Is this a known variable, something to do with how it was cultured or created, something to do with it being mRNA vs. inactivated live virus, something else?
Shot is slang for an injection. A shot/injection is a method of delivering a liquid into the body and has nothing to do with what is being introduced. Thinking there is a difference between a shot or injection or a difference in calling a vaccine or antibiotic a shot vs an injection is ignorant. When dealing with children and child like adults I'd call an injection a "shot" because that's what they would understand. Same with calling an ulnar (or any other bone) fracture a broken arm so they would understand.DD,
Not a shot...are you a Conservative?
Your approach to the 'rona' aligns with the 'left's' view...some of who are now 'suggesting' mask wearing should be a permanent thing.
Are you for that too?
Another thing to consider is that over 200,000,000 covid vaccine injections have been given in the space of a few months and that skews the perspective in regards to the number of people who have serious side effects. Instead of the number of people having serious side effects being spread over years they are happening in months.When I was in the Air Force, their idiots thought that if one flu shot was good, then we will give two and I was sick as a dog for a week. Just like with 2nd Moderna. There can be serious complications with vaccines. Smallpox vaccine was stopped because smallpox was eradicated and more people died of reactions to smallpox vaccine than smallpox. People died of oral polio vaccine and people got polio secondary to oral polio vaccine. Pneumococcal pneumonia vaccine has always been a sore arm vaccine for me.
One thing we need to consider is that Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA induced vaccines, first of their kind so we can't compare to other vaccines. One thing is for certain, no matter what the vaccine is there will be a percentage of people with a bad reaction and likely some people will die. From the vaccine, from the preservative, who knows. You play the odds or you decide not to. Your choice. J&J over 6 million doses and 6 people got that clot problem. Serious yes. How many people get that clot problem without the vaccine? I personally wouldn't take J&J because it is not as effective as Moderna and Pfizer. As far as I am concerned, they can send J&J to some 3rd world country and let them worry about it. Make your own decision and place your bets. The odds are pretty good though with living through the vaccine compared to the odds of living through the disease.
In the ER and when I worked Pedi when we gave the polio vaccine it was only given just before they were discharged because there was a chance of infecting another patient who might be immune-suppresed.People died of oral polio vaccine and people got polio secondary to oral polio vaccine.
LOL, ThanksDD,
You've become pedantic to the point of boring so I have to heap you onto the pile of 'ignore'...buh-bye!
The weakened strain of polio virus sometimes reverted to the full strength form and people who took the oral form could therefore pass on a full virulent form to un-vaccinated people. Nothing is 100% safe but I would bet that most on this forum took oral polio vaccine.In the ER and when I worked Pedi when we gave the polio vaccine it was only given just before they were discharged because there was a chance of infecting another patient who might be immune-suppresed.
I'm sure a fair number of us had the injection too.The weakened strain of polio virus sometimes reverted to the full strength form and people who took the oral form could therefore pass on a full virulent form to un-vaccinated people. Nothing is 100% safe but I would bet that most on this forum took oral polio vaccine.
I saw that & smiled.Apologies to Mowingmaniac 24/7, I misunderstood his use of the word "shot'. I thought he was refering to the idea I've seen put forth by some here that the flu vaccine is not a vaccine because it is commonaly called a "flu shot" and that the covid vaccine is not a vaccine, it's just a shot. Hence my rant on injection vs shot.
In the case of the covid vaccine a lower level of immunity.
I've had pneumonia more than a dozen times in my life. I've been hospitalized with it. It nearly killed me at least 3 times before I was 35. Hell, my parents actually took me outside to play in the snow for about 5 minutes when I was 3 or 4 years old and had pneumonia. Why? Because I'd been so sick so many times that they didn't think I'd ever grow up to see snow.
Pneumonia can be devastating at any stage of life and I take it very, very seriously. But maybe that's just me.
To tie back into the thread topic, given my history and current health problems, I take all the vaccines that might have any chance of utility for me. That doesn't include anthrax, rabies, or hepatitis but certainly does include shingles, pneumonia, flu, and, as soon as I can track down an appointment, covid.