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  • Orbie

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    Also... don't they normally have signs at rail crossings with a 1-800 number and a unique identifier? I hear those are pretty effective at getting anything on that line stopped ASAP. Not a guarantee, but a whole lot better than waiting for the engineer to see you and decide he can at least slow the train down even if he doesn't have time to stop any more.
    You are correct about the 1-800 number and the mile marker at each crossing. I’ve spoken to people that tried calling it before and they made it sound liked it’s impossible to reach someone. I personally have not tried calling.
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    Grumps21

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    Also... don't they normally have signs at rail crossings with a 1-800 number and a unique identifier? I hear those are pretty effective at getting anything on that line stopped ASAP. Not a guarantee, but a whole lot better than waiting for the engineer to see you and decide he can at least slow the train down even if he doesn't have time to stop any more.
    Huh, I just learned something new today. I was never aware of this. Guess I never paid too much attention
     

    kyletxria1911a1

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    Employers are typically required to test for drugs/alcohol after an accident. Declining the test usually means an automatic fail. A while back I was rear ended by another commercial vehicle (ironically from the same company I was driving for). First thing beyond the initial paramedic once over was, OK! Now go to the medical lab and get your samples taken within the next hour or else your fired.
    And if you don't they suspend your license in two days. Then you have to go to treatment and eval both 400.00 apiece. Out of your pocket.
    After that you. Must take surprise ua's for a year. Breath tests and if the company dosen't you pay the insurance surcharge.
     

    kyletxria1911a1

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    What is considered a preventable accident?


    The National Safety Council defines a preventable crash as “one in which the driver failed to exercise every reasonable precaution to prevent the accident.” Many fleets use this as their standard definition when categorizing a crash, but this definition has a real problem: “Reasonable” is highly subjective



    What is considered a preventable accident?


    The National Safety Council defines a preventable crash as “one in which the driver failed to exercise every reasonable precaution to prevent the accident.” Many fleets use this as their standard definition when categorizing a crash, but this definition has a real problem: “Reasonable” is highly subjective.
    It's always the driver's fault
     

    jordanmills

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    You are correct about the 1-800 number and the mile marker at each crossing. I’ve spoken to people that tried calling it before and they made it sound liked it’s impossible to reach someone. I personally have not tried calling.
    That sounds kind of like every other time I've heard about a railroad working with anyone who isn't with a railroad, so it wouldn't surprise me. I've never had need to call either, so I haven't tried it either.
     

    Moonpie

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    Gunz are icky.
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    Texasgordo

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    I passed by the accident scene awhile ago and I was totally wrong about it trying to shortcut in the gas station parking lot. There's no room for it to pass under the awning over the gas pumps and it's narrow.



    My bad.......
     

    oldag

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    Again, you are making an assumption that proper procedure wasn't followed. Your previous post was full of assumptions.

    Accidents can happen even when proper procedures are followed. That might be why they are called accidents.
    The overwhelming majority of incidents are preventable and almost always because proper procedures were not followed. Some safety professionals assert that every incident is preventable.
     

    Axxe55

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    The overwhelming majority of incidents are preventable and almost always because proper procedures were not followed. Some safety professionals assert that every incident is preventable.
    I happen to agree. The vast majority of accidents are preventable, and I have preached that for many decades. It's why there are procedures in place to help mitigate an accident from happening.

    But a realist knows that there are always going to be things out of your control, and even following proper safety procedures, accidents happen.

    That is why every accident should be investigated on case by case basis, and judged on it's own merits and unique circumstances. It helps us understand what things were overlooked, or things that were never thought of in the first place that could lead to an accident happening.
     

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    Ran into guy yesterday that knew what caused this. Like @Vaquero said, the rear of the trailer has its own steering and is powered by a gasoline engine and operated by a different person other than the driver who follows along in the convoy
    The tanks on these engines only hold about 3 gallons and this one wasn't filled when the truck fueled the last time.
    So... as the trailer got into that intersection, and the rear needed to be steered , there engine that drives the steering ran out of gas and stopped. The guy responsible for that was frantically trying to refuel and start that engine when the crossing arms came down.

    He did state that the ultimate responsibility falls on the driver for entering that intersection but the person who runs the rear steering should have refueled that engine when they stopped for fuel also.
     

    V-Tach

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    The only question is - Did you go to City Market?

    LOL...no, ate lunch with a friend (from Seguin) in Austin at a greasy spoon burger shop after the LTC instructor update.....

    Did stop at Fehner's in Gonzales and bought 2 pounds of CFE Pistol for 25/lb............no primers....

     

    Tnhawk

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    I happen to agree. The vast majority of accidents are preventable, and I have preached that for many decades. It's why there are procedures in place to help mitigate an accident from happening.

    But a realist knows that there are always going to be things out of your control, and even following proper safety procedures, accidents happen.

    That is why every accident should be investigated on case by case basis, and judged on it's own merits and unique circumstances. It helps us understand what things were overlooked, or things that were never thought of in the first place that could lead to an accident happening.
    I worked in a culture of "all accidents are preventable". While I didn't always agree that every accident was preventable, approaching tasks with that thought in mind did prevent many potential accidents.
    My approach to safety was from my military days. Murphy's Law- if it can go wrong, it will.
     

    kbaxter60

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    after the LTC instructor update.....
    At the risk of derailing an interesting thread, can you share the Cliff's Notes version of what you learned? I am curious as to whether much of the update dealt with the new CC law? Or, if you think it's worthy, just start a new thread?
     

    Orbie

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    I worked in a culture of "all accidents are preventable". While I didn't always agree that every accident was preventable, approaching tasks with that thought in mind did prevent many potential accidents.
    My approach to safety was from my military days. Murphy's Law- if it can go wrong, it will.
    I always tell new guys: At any moment, if you think that what you are about to do is unsafe, immediately stop. Sometimes rushing or taking shortcuts will cost you or someone else their life.
     

    V-Tach

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    At the risk of derailing an interesting thread, can you share the Cliff's Notes version of what you learned? I am curious as to whether much of the update dealt with the new CC law? Or, if you think it's worthy, just start a new thread?
    The update was given by employees of DPS....not Troopers as has always been the case in my previous experiences. Troopers are all on the Border...........

    The DPS employee referred to Permitless Carry as Opposed to CC. Said the bill was not Constitutional Carry.

    I was NOT impressed with their presentation.......it was also plagued by multiple technical difficulties with their computer.......

    Seemed they didn't know how change the settings to keep the computer from going into sleep mode during the slide presentation.............for one........
     
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