Slide fire stocks for SHTF situations?

[scap99]

Hey bud, I can see you are proud of using greek words like "ad hominem" and "curriculum vitae" (most people abbreviate it to CV btw), but using greek terms doesn't make you any smarter or help your argument. I appreciate your effort to psychoanalyze me, and you are very perceptive, (folks like you do kinda to piss me off) but you still have not explained why the stock will fail. Maybe you could stick to that and skip the psychology.

Now you are offering me your CV? LOL Are you applying for a job or something? Look man, I don't really give a crap what you think. You're free to feel any way you want about slidefire. But just don't expect you're just going to come in here and have the last word by saying "I'm a firearms police instructor, so what I say is gold" without someone else who actually owns one chiming in. Over and out.

It's all Latin to me....lol

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[FlashBang]

25 yards using a Slide Fire SSAR on the S&W M&P 15-22. Rifle customized with a 3 lb. trigger and a reverse brake.
Controllable and reliable. I also have the SSAR on several AR-15's and have the SSAK on several AK-47's; all of which I find reliable and controllable.

 

[shooterfpga]

Looks good at 25yds but you have about 6rd hit at 300yds if this was one of our targets we qualify on. But then again you aint gonna be slide firing at that distance so just saying this for comparison.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Looks good at 25yds but you have about 6rd hit at 300yds if this was one of our targets we qualify on. But then again you aint gonna be slide firing at that distance so just saying this for comparison.

Be a darn good target for 300yds with a .22, lol.....

 

[FlashBang]

Looks good at 25yds but you have about 6rd hit at 300yds if this was one of our targets we qualify on. But then again you aint gonna be slide firing at that distance so just saying this for comparison.

If I had a 6 round hit at 300 yards I would be very happy considering the S&W M&P 15-22 is a .22 caliber rifle.

The Slide Fire works well for CQB 3 round burst or for suppressive fire.

 

[gdouthit]

Maybe the best option would be a compromise? I will start carrying two rifles for EOTWAWKI situations. One with a slide fire and loaded with blanks to scare the piss out of them, and the other a normal semi-auto for accurate hits on target. Best of both worlds see?

HAHA

 

[F350-6]

So the proof that the slide fire works is a target at 25 yards and being able to control the massive recoil of a 22 to keep rounds on a paper target? Wonder what that group would look like if the paper were shooting back?

 

[shooterfpga]

I dont see where a slide fire stock is that far off from a full auto m4/m16 that law enforcement and military units use today. They have been using controlled fire and many videos of this slide fire show it is very capable of that. Also, we never had targets that shot back except for field exercises and yet we still train using paper targets and plastic dummys and still effectively close ranks with the enemy and kill them. Are you saying our training is ineffective because we dont have people shooting at us during basic and boot? History shows otherwise.


Btw, while we did have some soldiers freeze and not know what to do during training the majority did and this followed through overseas as well.

 

[M. Sage]

25 yards using a Slide Fire SSAR on the S&W M&P 15-22. Rifle customized with a 3 lb. trigger and a reverse brake.
Controllable and reliable. I also have the SSAR on several AR-15's and have the SSAK on several AK-47's; all of which I find reliable and controllable.

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Great, but still useless. Dumping a whole mag there isn't going to do anything that 3-5 rounds there wouldn't have.

Full auto is for area targets, not really for point targets. Unless you have a couple of fire teams, FA or Slide Fire are both fairly useless for anything but emptying your gun faster than you should.

 

[ROGER4314]

I have not used the stocks that you specified but have fired full auto rifles. That's just not how I want to shoot. One shot.....one dead thing. That's my way. I've known some stone cold survivalists who thought FA was the only way to go. I never agreed with them.

Flash

 

[V-Tach]

Great, but still useless. Dumping a whole mag there isn't going to do anything that 3-5 rounds there wouldn't have.

Full auto is for area targets, not really for point targets. Unless you have a couple of fire teams, FA or Slide Fire are both fairly useless for anything but emptying your gun faster than you should.

+1....Most wouldn't know how or when to use them effectively. Slide fires are fun......and that's enough reason to own one......

As far a SHTF scenario's, semi auto would be the most useful and effective.....imho....

 

[FlashBang]

So the proof that the slide fire works is a target at 25 yards and being able to control the massive recoil of a 22 to keep rounds on a paper target? Wonder what that group would look like if the paper were shooting back?

The 'proof' I posted was that the Slide Fire is controllable and accurate. I'll be glad to do the same for you with my SSAR and SSAK stocks on the AR-15's and AK-47's, as well as the AES10B I have. I imagine that the grouping would look much like yours would shooting your bolt action or semi-auto while under fire from 5-10 individuals.

I'm not arguing that the Slide Fire is for everyone or that it is some magical end all be all item. What it IS, is an affordable alternative to a high priced NFA full auto for those of us who want them. If you don't like them, or don't want one, you are entitled to your opinion. I'll spend my money and enjoy my firearms the way I want to, you are free to do the same.

 

[FlashBang]

I have not used the stocks that you specified but have fired full auto rifles. That's just not how I want to shoot. One shot.....one dead thing. That's my way. I've known some stone cold survivalists who thought FA was the only way to go. I never agreed with them.

Flash

FA / Slide Fire is a tool that is utilized in an appropriate situation for a given task... nothing more, nothing less.

 

[subseashooter]

And for me...the reason that I own a (few) slide fire is.....wasting ammo when I'm feeling rich!

Because it's FUN.

Same reason that I started shooting in the first place......

 

[F350-6]

And for me...the reason that I own a (few) slide fire is.....wasting ammo when I'm feeling rich!

Because it's FUN.

There is absolutely nothing at all wrong with this position, but that's not this thread was really about. If this was a slide fire is fun thread, I wouldn't argue at all, except to say that a real full auto is more fun.

 

[V-Tach]

Hmmmmmm........

Tac Con

 

[Younggun]

I want.

 

[F350-6]

I hate those stupid fence posts with the red dot on them too. Can't blame them for shooting them up.

Interesting to see if the feds come down on them. Slide fire is one thing, designing a trigger with no reset so it bump fires with the flip of a switch might be a gray area.

Of course if this really takes off, I'm thinking maybe I should design an upper than can be belt fed so folks could really have some fun because let's face it. Going cyclic with a 30 rd mag that will jam isn't all it's cracked up to be. Beats a sharp stick to the eye, but no where near as fun as belt fed.

 

[V-Tach]

We're going ahead with a pre-order-Our distributor said Dealer cost should be around $350......so retail around $400... a little pricey, but if they work as advertised.......

3 Position selector switch may catch some folks off guard ...

 

[Younggun]

Yup, that's pricey alright. Gonna be a tough choice. Of course for what a slide fire costs it would be worth a little extra for what appears to be a much nicer system.