Texasgordo
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Nah that's Jared LetoThe tall dude from The Professional? Great actor. Great movie.
Nah that's Jared LetoThe tall dude from The Professional? Great actor. Great movie.
arrogant stupidity at it's finestfor the atfI laugh everytime I see the video of the ATF getting f'd up. Cold hearted? Maybe but, they got what they deserved.
atf walked into a shit show they created!ATF was worried about being dissolved. They wanted to make a big media splash to justify their existence. Well that did make a big media splash.
If they really wanted Vernon Howell (and he deserved to be arrested on a number of charges), all they had to do was let the sheriff pick him during Howell's weekly visit to town (he went alone).
Disgraceful.
Janet, the Bitch, Reno has admitted that incendiary devices 'may' have been used...Koresh was your standard cult leader and did cult leader things like isolating followers from their families and media, feeding them a compelling story (religious in this case), taking all their wealth, breaking up strong family units, then having his way with wives and children. No love for the guy.
ATF was a bunch of a*s clowns wanting to show off. They deserved to have their s**t handed to them.
But the grand finale was part Koresh and part ATF. ATF wanted to smoke everyone out with tear gas, not realizing that EXCESSIVE gassing creates flammable particles suspended in the air. Kind of like the explosive hazard of grain dust in a silo, or flour dust in a kitchen, or fuel droplets falling from a fuel-air-explosive bomb. Whether Koresh started the fire (as ATF says and I tend to believe) or another ATF exploding tear gas grenade did, the end was predictable given the high winds. With stakes that high (all those kids...essentially hostages), there should have been way more contingency planning with fire and medical involved.
Was kind of fun watching the baby killers getting their asses handed to them that first day.atf walked into a shit show they created!
"But raising the ATF flag after all the kids were dead was really tasteless..."
Chipman can GTHThe guy nominated for ATF director years ago was one of the assholes taking pictures on the ashes of the compound.
The Sheriff or locals could have picked up Koresh in town, not a shot fired. The whole thing proves that The FBI and BATF should not be armed at all. Makes me sick. The Fed is out of control and taking more power every day.
ATF was worried about being dissolved. They wanted to make a big media splash to justify their existence. Well that did make a big media splash.
If they really wanted Vernon Howell (and he deserved to be arrested on a number of charges), all they had to do was let the sheriff pick him during Howell's weekly visit to town (he went alone).
Disgraceful.
Me and my wife watched it unfold laying in bed that Sunday morning. I usually watched TV early on Sunday. And there was Channel 10’s John McLemore in his little Bronco II reporting live at the compound.
It was later revealed the BDs knew they coming. A Davidian saw them at the muster site and sped to the compound. Watching that unfold was like watching shooting fish in a barrel. Agents dropping like flies.
Instead of a show of force the ATF begged for a cease fire. Never forget agents bleeding on the hood of that little Bronco. What a disaster.
Growing up around law enforcement I never would have imagined the Feds would burn women and children alive. That’s the day I lost respect.
DK was a piece of crap. He needed to go. But the intended spectacle made him into a hero for some. And I hate that. Over the years I came into contact with a few of the BDs. Generally hard working blue collar folks. How anyone could allow their daughters to be molested by DK is absurd.
This exactly.ATF was worried about being dissolved. They wanted to make a big media splash to justify their existence. Well that did make a big media splash.
If they really wanted Vernon Howell (and he deserved to be arrested on a number of charges), all they had to do was let the sheriff pick him during Howell's weekly visit to town (he went alone).
Disgraceful.
That's when they started in the window on the second story and the ATF guy got shot isn't it?Exactly. But the initial raid on the compound that started the whole thing and which could and should have been completely avoided and where the ATF got their asses handed to them by a bunch of cult members due to their own arrogance and stupidity was Feb. 28 of 1993.
Exactly, as seen in the media footage, in addition to quite a few others.That's when they started in the window on the second story and the ATF guy got shot isn't it?
If I were in attendance I'd be incarcerated...I'm quite sure. Stupid sons a bitches..Ruby Ridge is precisely when this shit show began, Waco was a push on the accelerator, now look at the mess were in.Is the memorial for the dead atf idiots in Waco, or Houston?
THE IT LED TO THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING!If I were in attendance I'd be incarcerated...I'm quite sure. Stupid sons a bitches..Ruby Ridge is precisely when this shit show began, Waco was a push on the accelerator, now look at the mess were in.
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