EMP discussion

[Clockwork]

Y'all crack me up!

Sometimes I wish we'd get nailed with an EMP. No laptop, no Blackberry, it would be a freakin' vacation!

I'd just have to figure out how to keep some ice cold for my drinks with no fridge.

Nooooo, an EMP would not be a short-term SHTF scenario.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Nooooo, an EMP would not be a short-term SHTF scenario.

That depends on your definition of "short-term"...I could use a few years off.

 

[Clockwork]

That depends on your definition of "short-term"...I could use a few years off.

I wouldn't mind it either, but not without my Internet and Netflix.

 

[Wolfwood]

hehe in the event of a worldwide EMP effect ie from the whole solar maximum thing, we would basically be starting over from nothing...

we would have only the barest of infrastructure... i mena our roads would still be there... most of them would be clogged with cars though. we'd have buildings, but nothing would work in them...

generators would largely be useless as well. quite a situation honestly. i dont know how well i would fare. i would probably survive, as i like to buy mechanical when i can. i dont have a car to get ruined, and im pretty sure my boots operate free of microprocessors... our guns will mostly all still work. home you have.
conventional glass or iron sight systems though.

i would love love love to setup a pigeon powered comms network...

remember carrier pigeons?

 

[TrailDust]

The EMP info is just simple advice, take from it what you will depending on the electronic devices you have.

 

[Clockwork]

hehe in the event of a worldwide EMP effect ie from the whole solar maximum thing, we would basically be starting over from nothing...

we would have only the barest of infrastructure... i mena our roads would still be there... most of them would be clogged with cars though. we'd have buildings, but nothing would work in them...

generators would largely be useless as well. quite a situation honestly. i dont know how well i would fare. i would probably survive, as i like to buy mechanical when i can. i dont have a car to get ruined, and im pretty sure my boots operate free of microprocessors... our guns will mostly all still work. home you have.
conventional glass or iron sight systems though.

i would love love love to setup a pigeon powered comms network...

remember carrier pigeons?

The only upside is that we'd have all the science, too. All the accumulated knowledge of mankind that has been "put to paper" as it were would still be around so at least we wouldn't need to re-invent things like electricity and refrigeration, we'd just need to scavenge the parts to get it working.

 

[scap99]

^ right.

sounds easy in theory.... lol.

really gonna suck for those of ya'll with pacemakers.

speaking of pacemakers, anyone ever want to make a nuclear battery? I dont think you can find radium anymore huh? tritium could work witha bit of imagination.

All the ionization smoke detectors have Americium in them...
Funny enough, the wiki entry speaks of nuke batteries as a possible use for this element.

 

[Wolfwood]

this is true^^

tritium would be soooooo easy though.
or radium.

since it glows for so long, imagine if ya just painted a peice of paper nice and thick with radium, (tritium would hbe harder since it is basically hydrogen gas though right?) and sandwiched the glowing paper between to solar cells. solder on some leads, and encase in lead.

bam 90 year battery.

i still think it is so awesome hwo that kid made a breeder reactor with americium thorium and auminum foil.

 

[TheDan]

Tritium isnt going to put out enough light to excite a solar cell... Most atomic bateries use thermocouples to generate electricity from the heat of the material. They usualy remain viable for 10 to 30 years depending on materials and construction. See Radioisotope thermoelectric generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[TrailDust]

i still think it is so awesome hwo that kid made a breeder reactor with americium thorium and auminum foil.

What's the story on this?

 

[TheDan]

What's the story on this?

David Hahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

mmmm, radiation sickness

 

[TrailDust]

David Hahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

mmmm, radiation sickness

Could be radiation dermatitis, and given his experiments it should also affect his hands and possibly upper chest. If that is radiation dermatitis then he may not have long to live. He may be an intelligent guy, but he absolutely had no common sense doing what he did and how he did it.

 

[IXLR8]

Wouldn't a gun safe be a sufficient Faraday cage to protect items inside it?

 

[Wolfwood]

Wouldn't a gun safe be a sufficient Faraday cage to protect items inside it?

needs to be totally sealed.

so yes and no, depending on the safe.

 

[TrailDust]

Wouldn't a gun safe be a sufficient Faraday cage to protect items inside it?

Again, like Wolfwood mentioned, there are too many points of "leakage" in a gun safe, not the least of which are any power cables routed into the safe, mounting holes for floor or wall bolts, and even non-hermetically sealing doors. On the one hand you'd have to be fairly close to a hypothetical EMP event for, say, a computer in a gun safe to be damaged, but if you wanted to be thoroughly protected you'd need to store it in a RFI/EMP protected bag like I described in an earlier reply.