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  • DaBull

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    Oh yes I remember that as well. Now SF and most of the Bay Area is totally gentrified moving most families to the Central valley.
    If the telework trend holds or gets stronger, people will not commute to downtown, but remain in their homes in the burbs. Downtown businesses will fail without the foot traffic, and condo prices will plummet as downtown quality of life decreases. In other words, the effects of gentrification may see a reversal. The homeless own the cities, and they aint paying.
     

    robertc1024

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    Welcome. I too love the PNW. It used to be live and let live - great edict. Now it's only live if you believe the same communist or socialist crap I believe.
     
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    Sasquatch

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    Sam my displaced relatives use to take us to a place in Oregon called Netards. We crabbed,
    fished, dug clams, and hung out on a great sandy beach. Ever been there?

    Netarts was more or less due west of where I grew up and lived the first 39 years of my life. Its due west of Tillamook, south of Oceanside. Oceanside is a neat little community. I had them trying to recruit me to join their fire department, because as a tow truck operator, I had happened to have to tow one of their senior member's rigs back home to Oceanside, and they saw how easily I maneuvered a 35' truck on those nasty tight little 2 lane roads with no shoulders. I guess that was a challenge for some of their people?

    Clamming, crabbing, and fishing on the Oregon coast is fucking phenomenal, most of the time anyway. I do miss fresh dungeoness crab. I miss fresh Chinook or Coho salmon. Frozen just is not the same for any of it. During the fishing season for them - my favorite coastal eateries got their fish and shellfish straight off the boats every morning.

    One of our favorite places to eat on the coast was further north in the town of Seaside - just south of Astoria. Seaside, for those who are not familiar, is Oregon's super-tourist town. Its about the only place in the state where your stereotypical spring break crowd takes over in the ways you see in warmer climates. The unofficial motto of Seaside, Oregon was "come on vacation, leave on probation" - but once you get away from that three week window of alcohol fueled stupidity during late March / early April - its a fun town suitable for family get aways. Beautiful beaches, you've got rivers and lakes close by, and there are tones of places to eat, old school arcades, a place that did bumper cars - really fun town. There's a place there called Norma's that we used to go - you had to get there early most days, because by dinner time the line could be a block long to get in. Super fresh crab, in-season fish, and they made an all right burger.

    For me, it was *always* a fresh, whole dungeoness crab with the hand cut french fries. Always. Always always always. Typically you wound up with over a pound of crab + your fries.

    The rivers and streams up in that part of the coast were frequent haunts of mine. The closest to me was the Wilson River - that flowed along highway 6 into Tillamook. I fished the shit out of that river - most guys targeted salmon and steelhead, but I usually was chasing the native resident coastal cutthroat trout and the sea-run cutthroat trout with ultralight spinning and ultralight fly fishing tackle. Yeah, the fish were smaller, but it was great fun, and very challenging, and the numbers of the SRC's was a lot lower so you had to *find* fish first. I wound up catching a steelhead once on a 4 weight spey rod while trout fishing, that was a hell of a fun fight.

    I hope some day sanity is returned to that part of the country, because it would be lovely to go visit again - but I just can't do it while the commies are in power.
     

    easy rider

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    Netarts was more or less due west of where I grew up and lived the first 39 years of my life. Its due west of Tillamook, south of Oceanside. Oceanside is a neat little community. I had them trying to recruit me to join their fire department, because as a tow truck operator, I had happened to have to tow one of their senior member's rigs back home to Oceanside, and they saw how easily I maneuvered a 35' truck on those nasty tight little 2 lane roads with no shoulders. I guess that was a challenge for some of their people?

    Clamming, crabbing, and fishing on the Oregon coast is fucking phenomenal, most of the time anyway. I do miss fresh dungeoness crab. I miss fresh Chinook or Coho salmon. Frozen just is not the same for any of it. During the fishing season for them - my favorite coastal eateries got their fish and shellfish straight off the boats every morning.

    One of our favorite places to eat on the coast was further north in the town of Seaside - just south of Astoria. Seaside, for those who are not familiar, is Oregon's super-tourist town. Its about the only place in the state where your stereotypical spring break crowd takes over in the ways you see in warmer climates. The unofficial motto of Seaside, Oregon was "come on vacation, leave on probation" - but once you get away from that three week window of alcohol fueled stupidity during late March / early April - its a fun town suitable for family get aways. Beautiful beaches, you've got rivers and lakes close by, and there are tones of places to eat, old school arcades, a place that did bumper cars - really fun town. There's a place there called Norma's that we used to go - you had to get there early most days, because by dinner time the line could be a block long to get in. Super fresh crab, in-season fish, and they made an all right burger.

    For me, it was *always* a fresh, whole dungeoness crab with the hand cut french fries. Always. Always always always. Typically you wound up with over a pound of crab + your fries.

    The rivers and streams up in that part of the coast were frequent haunts of mine. The closest to me was the Wilson River - that flowed along highway 6 into Tillamook. I fished the shit out of that river - most guys targeted salmon and steelhead, but I usually was chasing the native resident coastal cutthroat trout and the sea-run cutthroat trout with ultralight spinning and ultralight fly fishing tackle. Yeah, the fish were smaller, but it was great fun, and very challenging, and the numbers of the SRC's was a lot lower so you had to *find* fish first. I wound up catching a steelhead once on a 4 weight spey rod while trout fishing, that was a hell of a fun fight.

    I hope some day sanity is returned to that part of the country, because it would be lovely to go visit again - but I just can't do it while the commies are in power.
    Yeah, Seaside is what I meant for flying kites, not Oceanside. I used to stop at the old fashioned candy store to buy the candies many thought were no longer sold. Stayed at the Shilo Inn a few times when we had gotten too drunk to drive back to Astoria.
     

    Sasquatch

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    Yeah, Seaside is what I meant for flying kites, not Oceanside. I used to stop at the old fashioned candy store to buy the candies many thought were no longer sold. Stayed at the Shilo Inn a few times when we had gotten too drunk to drive back to Astoria.


    Its a fun town.

    I can see flying kites in Oceanside though too - Oceanside is out on the penninsula west of Tillamook, north of Netarts.

    Those old timey candy shops are cool. There was a dispatcher at AAA who - every time I got a tow out that way - would ask if I'd bring back some saltwater taffy for her.
     

    easy rider

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    Its a fun town.

    I can see flying kites in Oceanside though too - Oceanside is out on the penninsula west of Tillamook, north of Netarts.

    Those old timey candy shops are cool. There was a dispatcher at AAA who - every time I got a tow out that way - would ask if I'd bring back some saltwater taffy for her.
    Been to Oceanside many times too. Hell, I don't know how many times I was up and down the Oregon coast. Another great place for kite flying was Long Beach on the Washington side, but they had a toll on the bridge going across from Astoria at that time, so we usually went south to Seaside.

    In 2011/12, when I lived in Beaverton, I must have rode my bike through Astoria about a dozen times, just to ride the coast. Of course, since they removed the toll, I'd go over that bridge just because it's a blast on the bike.
     

    jnynetwk

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    Oh yes I remember that as well. Now SF and most of the Bay Area is totally gentrified moving most families to the Central valley.
    I know IT guys that work in Silicon Valley but can't afford to live there so they have to commute over the mountains. Or they did before the pandemic. Now they're trying to get out and work from home someplace else.
     

    cbp210

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    I know IT guys that work in Silicon Valley but can't afford to live there so they have to commute over the mountains. Or they did before the pandemic. Now they're trying to get out and work from home someplace else.

    That is pretty much the norm as no affordable housing and all areas have been gentrified and thus blue collared workers are not able to live in the areas they work in. Most o my friends have already left the Bay Area and moved to the Central valley or Nevada with me only living in Texas.
     

    cbp210

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    I have family in the Bay Area and they never go into San Fran anymore. It is sad such a lovely city has been run into the ground.
    Only thing keeping SF alive is the Pier 39 and Alcatraz but in time that will end. No wonder the Niners left SF and moved their operations to the Santa Clara County region.
     

    Sasquatch

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    Been to Oceanside many times too. Hell, I don't know how many times I was up and down the Oregon coast. Another great place for kite flying was Long Beach on the Washington side, but they had a toll on the bridge going across from Astoria at that time, so we usually went south to Seaside.

    In 2011/12, when I lived in Beaverton, I must have rode my bike through Astoria about a dozen times, just to ride the coast. Of course, since they removed the toll, I'd go over that bridge just because it's a blast on the bike.

    Damn dude, I'd be real surprised if our paths didn't cross, because in 2011/2012 I lived in that area. I grew up between Beaverton and Hillsboro, and by 2012 I'd already been towing in that area for 7, going on 8 years.
     

    easy rider

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    Damn dude, I'd be real surprised if our paths didn't cross, because in 2011/2012 I lived in that area. I grew up between Beaverton and Hillsboro, and by 2012 I'd already been towing in that area for 7, going on 8 years.
    Can't say I needed a tow. I lived on SW 130th, about a half mile from Nike World near Hwy 26.
     
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