Maverick44
Youngest old man on TGT.
It's only a valid concern if you're regularly making money doing it. If your just expanding your collection, that's not considered engaging in the business.
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It's only a valid concern if you're regularly making money doing it. If your just expanding your collection, that's not considered engaging in the business.
No where did I use the word registration or did I say anyone was coming to take anyone's guns. RIF.
I did say that not keeping up an argument and education against using a BOS will keep it from becoming something that is accepted by the majority of this community. Right now you are a minority in the way you think, but without others debating BOS use, it could become more common over time and even used as a "common sense" gun control solution using the then gun community's ignorance against them.
Ultimately the government decides that so hopefully you are okay with their decision.
I just came in to mention that.
If a BOS becomes the norm then it is easier to pass as law. Keep expanding on that and soon we have to turn them in to the .gov.
It is easy to say a BOS is a minor thing, but it is a baby step in the wrong direction.
The old saying of "even the longest journey starts with a single step" comes to mind.
Maverick44
Youngest old man on TGT.
Actually, you're the minority here. Most in this thread are in the "I don't care either way" camp it seems. There's only a small handful of die hard "we hate BOS" members.
your fears about BOSs are unfounded. It's a receipt, and no one wants to make them even remotely mandatory.
Ultimately, the court decides that if the Feds want to make an issue out of it. If they want to get you, they'll get you regardless of whether you have a pile of BOSs.
I had a private gun seller who tried to get me to show my driver's license once. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
ROTFLMAO Best one yet
If you are willing to talk about the beliefs behind your decisions, we can help you get over it. You are simply mistaken, or confused. Philosophically the "BOS for firearms" is in the
"common sense gun control" camp. The mere idea is wrong.
If you don't explain how, I'll just assume you can't back up your claim because you are completely wrong.
Hint: I know you'll never come back and your statement is false
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How so? Since it's not "proof" of anything. It's only a reminder of who you sold it to (or bought it from), "if" they are honest. If you sold your lawnmower, would you get a bill of sale? BOS is a bullshit, fell good thing at best.
Want to sell me your gun? I'll show you a driver's license with my picture on it to prove I'm a Texas residence but you're not going to copy anything down. You've just cleared yourself of any liability. I give you the money, you give me the gun, and as far as we are concerned we have both met out legal obligations (more than necessary, actually).
From our rights maybe.
Again, RIF, never said anything specifically about the majority/minority's count referring solely to TGT. The wording I used was "this community" referring to the gun community at large and not just our little slice of heaven here. I thought that was obvious being I believe I used the words "gun community " prior to that statement as well as after.
As I stated, my concerns were for a later time down the road if the gun community continued on the road to accepting BOS as SOP. SO being unfounded is all it can be until that point in the future you can prove such.
And again, I never said the word "mandatory" anywhere. Not sure where you are reading where I said that word in any of my posts.
As I've stated here before. Sold a few guns FTF. Had one that resulted in a phone call from local PD. If I'd been willing to lie I could have reclaimed the weapon. Told them I traded it off and that was the end of the story. No threats from the police. I had done nothing wrong and they were aware of that.
The best way to avoid the above is not to buy new guns. The 4473 is a form of registration where the dealer has to store the paperwork. When the government goes looking the dealer is required to give them the form. If they go out of business the government gets the forms directly. Does anyone think they destroy them?
When I do a FTF I actually ask if the buyer is a resident and legally can own the weapon. If he says even jokingly "no" I won't sell to him. If yes is the answer, I've done my job. If I need the money or want the gun and the other guy wants a BOS, I can live with that and will comply, its no big deal. Just a useless piece of paper. And if you want info from me, I expect yours as well.
The best way to avoid the above is not to buy new guns. The 4473 is a form of registration where the dealer has to store the paperwork. When the government goes looking the dealer is required to give them the form. If they go out of business the government gets the forms directly. Does anyone think they destroy them?
When I do a FTF I actually ask if the buyer is a resident and legally can own the weapon. If he says even jokingly "no" I won't sell to him. If yes is the answer, I've done my job. If I need the money or want the gun and the other guy wants a BOS, I can live with that and will comply, its no big deal. Just a useless piece of paper. And if you want info from me, I expect yours as well.
